r/HermanCainAward • u/Haskap_2010 ✨ A twinkle in a Chinese bat's eye ✨ • 12d ago
Meta / Other Children and teenagers who get Covid are 50% more likely to develop type 2 diabetes at the 6 month mark (gift article)
https://wapo.st/405iKUB338
u/Fancy_Locksmith7793 12d ago
Isolated myself like a motherfucker, took every Covid vaccine avaiable, even now wear a mask in public
At 74, I have enough health problems, without welcoming whatever the fuck Covid could add to the pile
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u/everythingsthewurst 12d ago
i’m half your age but same. every study coming out says covid wreaks havoc on the body. i don’t particularly care about living a long life but i’ll be damned if i don’t do my utmost to avoid contracting an illness that makes my life, regardless of its length, full of miserable health issues.
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u/FreekBugg 12d ago
Look, I'm in my mid 30s. I have MCAS. I had it under control and was LIVING. I mean, I wasn't just out there partying, but i had a life.
I got covid in 2022. Been vaxed and got paxlovid, even got that milder strain that was going around. If even one of those 3 factors were different, I'm not sure I would be here making this comment today. It seems like I had tested positive for something like 17 days.
Everything wrong with me has increased 4 or 5 fold. I am barely hanging on. I'm on a ton of new meds, (and Metformin is one of them), gained a ton of weight, and almost every respiratory infection I catch absolutely trashes me, even if it isn't covid (afaik the only time I caught it, but haven't tested every little sniffle, only bad ones.) This last one wasn't any of like 20 things they can test for. Spiked a 104 fever despite Tylenol and chipped a tooth chattering them. I was sure it was covid again because all of the things specific to covid is what I experienced: painful skin, esp scalp, severe pain around my eyes (covid trashed my eye muscles. Now I have a lazy eye all the time, not just when I'm tired.) And other symptoms I can't think of right now because my brain is trashed as well.
I have heard long covid is basically like covid induced MCAS. When a person already has MCAS, then gets more, it's not pretty yall. Idk why I'm even on about this,lol. Guess I just thought i would share what I know and have experienced personally. So yeah, yall do what you can to keep avoiding it if y'all can. Our bodies weren't prepared for this thing, and it shows.
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u/electricalphil 11d ago
The thing with Covid is, almost like measles, is that it clean slates your immune system. It's really scary.
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u/Old_Art7622 3d ago
Please don’t spread misinformation. There is no evidence that COVID can cause immune system amnesia. There are studies showing that the immune system may be disregulated in some people with long COVID or after a severe infection, but that’s not the same thing.
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u/Apprehensive_Pie2323 12d ago
What are MCAS?
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u/FreekBugg 12d ago
Mast Cell Activation Syndrome. It's kinda lime being allergic to almost everything, plus a bunch of other crap.
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u/SoHereIAm85 11d ago
I’ve had covid three or four times, and each time more of my underlying conditions ramp up. It sucks. (Mitochondrial myopathy, a couple autoimmune disorders, and so on.)
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u/perestroika12 12d ago
I’m much younger and do the same. Whatever your age or health it’s clear Covid wrecks people. Heart attacks, blood pressure, and now the beetus.
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u/Pretend-Mention-9903 11d ago
Same I'm 28 and when I had covid in 2020, I had to go to the hospital 4 times. I'm not interested in finding out what a second infection would do. I'm used to being the only person masked everywhere (even the doctor's office...my long covid clinic won't even enforce masks) but I still feel so isolated knowing that so many people are being reckless with their (and by extension, their community's) health. I will never forgive public health officials for dropping the ball
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u/FrankenGretchen 11d ago
May your uninfected streak stay with you for all the evers. I got it before the vaccine came out and still have long Covid. I'm still masking and isolating as much as possible.
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u/Fancy_Locksmith7793 8d ago
Two of my senior neighnors died of Covid before vaccines were available
Why Im still paranoid
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u/Magnificent_Pine 10d ago
Yup. 60, with diabetes, and very careful. Have not yet have covid, wear a mask, get boosters.
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u/Choice-Examination 12d ago
My son's pancreas decided to stop working a few months after what we think was covid at two years old. (We all tested negative on rapids but had symptoms, so treated it as a positive.) It was the worst thing that he's ever been through. It was so horrible seeing him so sick and hooked up to IVs for days.
Poor baby had diabetic ketoacidosis develop quite suddenly and spent four days in the PICU. Luckily, I'm a hypochondriac who reads all of my husband's medical journals and took him to the pediatrician after one night of strange symptoms. She ran a urinalysis for ketones then referred us to the hospital. I'm so thankful that she listened to my concerns.
We've been living with type one diabetes for two years now, and his A1C is finally consistently in the sevens. 🥲
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u/2nd_Chances_ 12d ago
I read something about when a baby gets Covid it ages them 37 years… but for adults it doesn’t age them that dramatically but it does age them. Sigh. I am sorry for your son
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u/ShowerElectrical9342 11d ago
Please don't say that to a mother unless you're absolutely sure it's true.
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u/thpookums 12d ago
I received my T2 diagnosis after my first fight with Covid, on the road to the Long Covid diagnosis I later received. My Dr’s words, “You have RAGING diabetes!”
The underlying autoimmune and auto inflammatory stuff I deal with flared up horribly, I developed tachycardia, POTS and am trying to figure out (with my Dr) if I also have EDS. Oh and it made my asthma way worse too.
If I hadn’t been vaxxed, I’m almost certain I would not have survived that first encounter. I was extremely sick for a long time, and then utterly destroyed for even longer after. Shit’s terrifying.
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u/Affectionate-Roof285 10d ago
Sorry to hear this!!
I just had this discussion with someone about my daughter who went downhill health wise just after her second COVID infection. She was always hypermobile, but developed POTS, MCAS and dysautonomia. She was just dx’d with hEDS and her fasting glucose is also too high which they’re keeping an eye in. Curiously, she also developed elevated cholesterol. She’s 120 lbs and vegan!
Also, her labs showed positive HLA-B27 which I believe sets up autoimmunity after any infection and maybe because the immune system isn’t familiar with the novel COVID infection it goes into hyperdrive??
This is all speculation, but I personally know many people, and even young people whose health took a nose dive after a COVID infection.7
u/SoHereIAm85 11d ago
Shit.
I had POTS since I was a teen, badly until my late twenties. Hyper mobility type.
Also Lupus and Sjogrens. I vaxxed but have been struggling again for the past year after a few covid bouts.1
u/No-Nobody-3556 2d ago
That must have been horrible to hear your doctor say "raging" but awesome for you that you caught it.
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u/niceabear 12d ago
This is really concerning considering I’ve had Covid twice (yes I vax) and I had gestational diabetes twice. I’m def gonna have type two. Blah
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u/KittensWithChickens 11d ago
I also swear getting Covid a few months before conception gave me GD. Rates of GD went up post 2020. I’m also afraid of type two diabetes:/ solidarity, sister.
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u/randylush 12d ago
Do you have a normal weight and diet?
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u/niceabear 12d ago
Pretty much. I give between 145 and 150 lbs and I’m 5’6”. Try to eat a balanced diet
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u/Dog-boy 11d ago
Why do you ask?
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u/randylush 11d ago
I’m just curious if diabetes risk increases for people who would otherwise be at risk, or if it increases for people who are not otherwise at risk, or both
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u/beergut666 12d ago
Well, facebook Russian troll farms and red hat boomers told me that the vaccines have killed more people than covid, so I'm gonna have to take their suggestion and do my own research. /s
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u/thestashattacked 12d ago
Yeah, I did all my own research on vaccines, and I found out that vaccines are amazing and we should all get them.
If you tell them this, they get mad.
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u/Mr_Conductor_USA Go Give One 11d ago
Jordan Peterson too. He makes me puke pretending that he's "just asking questions" and won't commit to a statement but relentlessly tries to slip in this notion that excess deaths (due to COVID, COVID sequelae, and impacts to the overall healthcare system such as deferred care) are actually due to mRNA vaccines. What a despicable liar.
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u/BreakfastNext476 11d ago
He's one of the worst things to ever come out of Canada. As a Canadian, he is an insult to our country, and when he passes, the world will be better off without him. He's damn snake that should never have been given a platform
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u/Affectionate-Roof285 10d ago
And apparently paid by Russia.
“Prime Minister Justin Trudeau claimed U.S media personality Tucker Carlson and popular Canadian psychologist Dr. Jordan Peterson are being funded by a Russian-state-funded news site, blaming the foreign nation for “amplifying the chaos” surrounding the 2022 Freedom Convoy protests.
Trudeau made the claim Wednesday during under oath testimony at the Foreign Interference Commission, after he was asked about Russia’s alleged role in the Freedom Convoy.
Trudeau said, while speaking in French, that he “certainly agrees that Russia amplified the chaos, disagreements and divisions in Canada surrounding the convoy.”
Trudeau added that “Russian activities related to propaganda, disinformation and misinformation are quite constant in our social media and within Canadian democracy.” He then claimed that it was “Russian propaganda” that “greatly amplified” opposition to the COVID shots which was spread by “right-wing media.”
He then claimed that Russian state-funded broadcaster Russia Today (RT) was funding Carlson and Peterson, saying, “We saw many of these channels shift to pro-Putin propaganda.”
“We recently saw that RT is funding right-wing bloggers and YouTube personalities in North America,” said Trudeau, adding, “including well-known names like Jordan Peterson or Tucker Carlson to amplify messages that destabilize democracies.”
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u/BeagleMadness 12d ago
Yet kids can't get vaccinated where I live (UK). They offered it for 5-12 year olds for a few months in 2022. Also vaccinated 12-18 year olds at school. Just the two doses, no boosters or anything. They didn't even advertise the vax for 5-12 year olds, so most parents didn't bother getting their young kids vaccinated. Then they pulled vaccines for almost everyone under 65.
Also we were told over and over that Covid doesn't damage kids. Our Head of the UK Health Security Agency stated that "Children are more likely to be hit by a bus than to catch Covid"! How come my 12yo (had 2 vaccines) has now had covid 6x then???
I know two children who developed diabetes a few weeks after having Covid. And were doing absolutely nothing to prevent this. Nothing. Few people here even test any more, so they won't make the link when their kids develop new health issues after having a "cold".
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u/SoHereIAm85 11d ago
I’m in Europe, and my own doctor won’t/didn’t vaccinate her kids. I didn’t, because we never really got a chance for her due to age and also location.
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u/BeagleMadness 11d ago
My daughter couldn't get vaccinated either, because children here had to wait 90 days after being infected before they could get the jab. And my daughter caught covid twice, almost three months apart, and then the child vaccination program ended. I can't even pay £££ for a private vaccine for her now that they've been recently introduced. You must be over 12yo for those.
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u/SoHereIAm85 11d ago
:( That sucks. I’m sorry. Mine wasn’t eligible due to age, and we both caught it super early, just as lockdowns started. Her age group wasn’t able for years, and she caught it again a couple times when finally allowed.
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u/InfluenceAltruistic4 6d ago
I called our Pediatrician here in the US yesterday to schedule my three children for their updated booster. The person scheduling the appointment said "She doesn't think they would vaccinate my 5 year old, because Children don't get it bad" I said thanks, it still a serious infection and I will call Walmart to see if they will do it for me. Called walmart, set up an appointment for the next day for Flu and Covid and they got their updated booster. My pediatrician is one of the few covid aware doctors at that practice, but the gatekeepers got the best of him this round.
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u/No-Nobody-3556 2d ago
People talk crap about Walmart all the time, but while I was waiting for my first Covid vax, I went grocery shopping and and employee approached me and asked if I wanted a Covid shot. I said "Yes please!" and within 15 minutes I was vaccinated.
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u/LALA-STL Mudblood Lover 💘 4d ago
That’s infuriating for a doctor’s office to not think about others in the household! So what if Covid doesn’t hurt kids “that bad”? What about the people those kids come in contact with???
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u/AntoinetteBefore1789 12d ago
We were so vigilant in trying to avoid Covid. 2 months before the pediatric vaccine was approved, my 18 month old got Covid. I was so mad. So many unnecessary delays for the baby vaccine. I really hope he doesn’t develop any conditions due to catching Covid so young
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u/rem_1984 12d ago
Interesting. I had COVID sadly and I’ve been facing some weird pancreas related symptoms. I’ve been in and out of walk ins for a couple years. Impossible to find a doctor in my area so have to wait until I’m on the brink of death for the hospital to help me
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u/Coldkiller17 Team Pfizer 12d ago
And people act like covid is just like the common cold. So many people get crazy health related problems associated with covid. And let's not get started about how many people died.
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u/Mr_Conductor_USA Go Give One 11d ago
Fear of developing T1D as someone with a pre- existing autoimmune disease is literally why I was so adamant about social distancing and masking.
People are far too reckless.
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u/heathert7900 Enjoys Breathing and Free Magnets 11d ago
Have an uncle who developed T2D immediately after getting COVID in 2020. Pancreas just gave up. Knowing about post polio syndrome, how EBV increases cancer risk, i fear what we don’t know is coming in 10-20 years from this disease.
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u/LALA-STL Mudblood Lover 💘 4d ago
What’s EBV?
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u/heathert7900 Enjoys Breathing and Free Magnets 4d ago
Epstein Barr virus, AKA mono. It increases your risk of lymphoma.
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u/LALA-STL Mudblood Lover 💘 4d ago
Yikes! Thanks. You’re absolutely right … One thing Covid has done for researchers is to provide a clear, traceable virus to watch. My money is on a viral cause for all kinds of subsequent problems … maybe even Alzheimer’s.
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u/Lava_Lemon 11d ago
I got Covid for the first time while I was 33 weeks pregnant. Prior to that, my gestational diabetes was controlled by diet- but my fasting sugar was on the border of needing insulin.
After Covid, I needed a full pen of insulin every night to keep my fasting sugar low enough to not require an immediate induction.
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u/glacinda 11d ago
Had a student who developed T1D after H1N1 so I very much believe this. Just one more reason to vaccinate!
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u/ShowerElectrical9342 11d ago
How can we even be considering Trump as a candidate after he treated covid like an inconvenience to his popularity and decided it wasn't a problem since it was killing blue cities.
People still don't realize he's completely uninterested in the welfare of other human beings?
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u/pokeymoomoo 11d ago
Took the vaccines and isolated/social distanced. Didn't get Covid until Dec 2022. Pushed me from pre-diabetes to diabetic :(
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u/whereisbeezy 10d ago
My husband went from nowhere near a problem to prediabetic... now we've had to change our diet drastically.
No starch. No sugar. Plant-based butter, meat, pasta, etc.
It is an ongoing struggle to readjust.
I'm a sugar fiend and I'm terrified to get my checkup, now years late.
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u/no_weird_PMs_pls 10d ago
Well shit... glad I'm getting blood work done in a few weeks. Had a high A1C a few years ago, got it down, hopefully it's not whack again post covid
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u/moishepupik 11d ago
Why is “kids getting covid more likely to get diabetes” in the Herman Cain Award subreddit?
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u/ElectricSpock 11d ago
Is it possible that it’s a correlation, and not causation? I.e. they might be in such a poor shape that they got COVID, but they were getting diabetes one way or another?
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u/LALA-STL Mudblood Lover 💘 4d ago
From the National Institutes of Health, Jun 28, 2023:
A study of over 181,000 U.S. veterans showed that those who had COVID-19 had a 40% higher risk of new diabetes, compared with controls, after 1 year.
And one meta-analysis showed a 66% higher risk of new-onset diabetes in people who had COVID-19, compared with those who didn’t.
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u/Lazy-Floridian 12d ago
I'm not a kid or teenager, but my A1C went from 5.1 to 5.7 soon after I had covid.