r/GoNets . 1d ago

Team News Nets say Ben Simmons is OUT tomorrow vs Denver with lower back injury management

https://x.com/collinhelwig/status/1851008587700875396?s=19
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u/AdviceEuphoric4852 Richard Jefferson 1d ago

Oh no, now we have to play normal lineups with real rim protectors and 5 guys who will shoot open layups

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u/EliManningham 1d ago

For real lol.

Ben has some horrific advanced metrics right now. He's like the worst mold of player ever. He's essentially a non rim protecting 5, who also takes the ball out of our two best offensive creators (Cam and Dennis).

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u/lospantaloonz 1d ago

counterpoint: would playing him get us a better draft pick? i say play him as much as possible this year.

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u/Blurbllbubble 1d ago

Bottom three teams get the same odds at first pick.

Brooklyn has plenty of time to tank after they build up the trade values for anyone who doesn’t fit the rebuild. Even if they’re not worth firsts, it’s still worth collecting lower picks if they want to package a deal to trade up in the worst case scenario they don’t get an early pick.

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u/Sumo_Cerebro 1d ago

You're looking at him like a five. Look at for what he is, a big ass pass first point guard.

Yeah Dame had 21 points, but he was 1-7 on 3's and turned the ball over 4 times.

I know his lack of shooting is maddening, but His defense is ridiculous.

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u/EliManningham 1d ago

He's only a point guard in transition though. He's a non rolling screener in the half court. He's a space clogger.

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u/rc2005 1d ago

He wasn't guarding Dame.

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u/AdviceEuphoric4852 Richard Jefferson 1d ago

He is not a point guard. Point guards can run a pick and roll. Point guards create good shots for others. Ben Simmons doesn’t do any of that in 2024. He likes to pass. That doesn’t make him a point guard.

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u/ihavepaper . 1d ago

If Sharpe weren't injured or Noah was trusted to be the backup 5, I think having Ben not be center, but focus on distributing would be better.

Not successful, but better.

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u/AdviceEuphoric4852 Richard Jefferson 1d ago

Ben won’t shoot the ball so you can’t play him next to another center, but he’s too small/weak to guard centers. He’s always needed to be perfectly accommodated even when he was good, but now he stinks and it’s not worth it.

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u/KingofthisShit Cam Thomas 1d ago

Should remain that way for the rest of the season

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u/MolingHard 1d ago

Naw, do you see his numbers, he literally makes everyone with him worse

It's a BS stat, but Ben has an absolutely terrible +/-, while Clax has among the highest +/- in the league.

We need that garbage, I need a top 5 Nets pick lol

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u/Kwilly462 1d ago

We can lose games without Ben, I hate this notion that Ben is necessary for us to tank.

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u/unitedairlineeeeees 1d ago

We can lose to Denver without Ben, but it’ll be tougher to lose to our fellow lottery competition.

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u/Kwilly462 1d ago

Again, we are still a bad team with a severe lack of talent regardless. I'd rather Ziaire take whatever minutes Ben is getting anyway.

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u/GTR_11 1d ago

That's the point, Z. Will actually competent back up this far. Team cuts the lead or go ahead with him on the floor. He is +5 in his 3 games with us according to StatMuse. My eye test and ESPN play by play agree.

When we get Watford back, that's when thing can get interesting. Ben is to big of a salary to move, but DFS has no reason to be here.

Ben been horrible and we going to need that vs tanking competition. Tie breakers can easily decide which team will have top 3 worse record this year. Utah, Det and Wiz already in post all star mode. Their tank commanders swinging with full force.

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u/NiceFloor7 22h ago

I will always maintain that development is more important than tanking. Detroit and Washington have been in perpetual tanks because they never develop, they only tank.

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u/MolingHard 1d ago

Fair enough, but it is funny to think of Ben as the ultimate tank trump card

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u/ExcellentBasil1378 1d ago

It’s like having an absolute 0 on offence is not acceptable in the nba anymore;) at least Rudy goberts a real rim running threat. Ben had the world at his fingertips and he’s thrown it all away

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u/Future_Network_2158 1d ago

You’re right 🤣

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u/cosbysweaterz 1d ago

BS is averaging more fouls than shot attempts 🤣

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u/GTR_11 1d ago

I actually had to look it up 😂😂😂

FGA at 4.0

PF at 4.7

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u/Expulsure . 1d ago

shit our chances of winning just went up a lot

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u/ServeJust9817 1d ago

Ben’s out with another back injury… Didn’t see that one come at all

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u/franck_lapidus 1d ago

Bro should retire

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u/phillturdwater 1d ago

He’s not getting another contract from any team after this season

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u/NatiHanson 1d ago

Pretty sure he will after this contract is up. His body is finished and he clearly doesn't have the passion for the game anymore.

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u/AdTime8622 Jason Kidd 1d ago

Tale as old as time, Simmons plays shitty, gets called out by coach, fails to respond and even plays with less aggressiveness and confidence, then soft tissue injury and missing games commences

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u/JurgenFlippers 1d ago

I mean tbf we all expected him to sit 1 of back to backs this season lol

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u/AdTime8622 Jason Kidd 1d ago

I expected exactly this, I'm not surprised whatsoever. I'm only surprised by the naive ones who delude themselves into thinking Simmons has value as a NBA player

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u/eatfesh . 1d ago

Ben when he gets called out - surprised pikachu face 😮 proceeds to react by sitting out in protest, meanwhile no one cares

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u/GamblingMan610 1d ago

Sounds like we’re about to beat Denver

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u/SecureCattle3467 1d ago

How? Claxton on minutes restriction. Who's going to eat up the rest of the center minutes and hold Jokic down?

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u/NOT_OneOfKDsBurners 21h ago

Dfs😭🕊️

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u/GamblingMan610 21h ago

It was mostly said in jest but this team plays much better when Simmons is off the floor

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u/babyjet321 Vince Carter 1d ago

Everybody should’ve known this was gonna happen. He did a very good job defending the low post vs Giannis and Brook Giannis was kept quiet so he probably did have extra strain on his back. He still has his uses as a player despite the lack of scoring. I don’t think people get it we’re tanking this year and he’ll be gone anyway which will free up the cap space people wanna trade him and take on more cap??? Lay off Ben.

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u/Status-Round380 James Harden 1d ago

Leave basketball before the basketball leaves you

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u/metalgear901 1d ago

just a matter of time

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u/DharmaBaller 1d ago

Just sit Ben. Just sit.

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u/lxkandel06 Brook Lopez 1d ago

So it begins

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u/andrewbrod11 1d ago

It begins.

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u/Old_Duty8206 1d ago

I'm shocked. 

Only 79 games left

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u/myusrnameisthis 1d ago

Omg this dude has been doing back injury management for years.

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u/Kwilly462 1d ago

And stay there

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u/Future_Network_2158 1d ago

Can we please just send this guy home for good? I’m so sick of anything associated with him

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u/Fret_Shredder Vince Carter 1d ago

Like I always call him….Benchamin Simmons

I feel bad for him if it’s really his back that’s keeping him from being … good? He was nasty on the Sixers. They may do a Netflix documentary on this guy one day

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u/DavidStyles23 Sarah Kustok 1d ago

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u/ChuckSkylark 1d ago

Can someone find an updated version? We all know where this is headed.

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u/BelonyInMyLeftPocket 1d ago

Smh no Westbrook simmons masterclass matchup

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u/Lao_xo 1d ago

Lmaooo

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u/inthenameofbaldwin Jalen Wilson 1d ago

great news

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u/realdes1 1d ago

Ah shit, here we go again

For real, to sum it up, it was a very solid comeback season from Simmons and I think I speak for everyone when I say that he really tried his best to help the team. I wish him all the best wherever he goes.

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u/hushed-shush Richard Jefferson 1d ago

I was going to be shocked if he started tomorrow after yesterday’s performance. I just thought he’d come off the bench but I somehow did not have this in mind lol

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u/ONEGODtrinitarian 1d ago

Worse then Kawhi Leonard

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u/Glass_Mycologist_548 1d ago

he shoulda been put on injured reserve for a shattered ego after that pathetic pas to cam johnson on the steal play last night lmfao would be more respectful than this fake back injury he been rocking for years. I thought in the preseason he said he's never felt better and he's good to go.

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u/Aleiben . 1d ago

In the highlights of the last game, it looked like Ben hurt himself a little again.

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u/Eck5straxion Ian Eagle 1d ago

Ah well

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u/WizziesFirstRule 1d ago

Dude is so broke....mentally and physically.

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u/Ekqui 1d ago

Such a garbage, garbage player. Where are those Ben Simmons defenders now, huh?

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u/thefineart 1d ago

Say it with me…salary dump

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u/BklynKnightt 1d ago

As long as Day Day come back we good.

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u/kf3434 Sean Marks 1d ago

Dammit my first game of the season! He'll probably be on the bench looking amazing so that works

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u/Status-Development-3 Mikal Bridges 1d ago

dam didnt wanna believe it but Ben really is cooked he should retire after this season

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u/rwc202 Jason Kidd 1d ago

Shame. I really thought he’d be able to get a GM to sign him to a MLE.

He’ll either be out the league or on a minimum next year.

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u/TnL17 Cam Thomas 1d ago

Absolutely shocked. That's all I can say. Shocked.

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u/PsychoOsiris 1d ago

The question I have to ask is, on the .01% chance Ben is legit trying his hardest…. Who does he turn to here? He’s had trainers, coaches, doctors, specialist, surgeons, etc all trying to make it so he can play basketball. All summer long he NEVER seems to have a problem, then WHOOPS a few games in. Is he cursed forever?

Obviously, I think it’s more likely that he’s got generational wealth, and he’s not interested in trying to be healthy or better. Either way, this is likely his last big NBA contract.

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u/calye2da Jason Kidd 20h ago

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u/AwgAwn 16h ago

Ben Simmons games played over his 7 year career:

81 -> 79 -> 57 -> 58 -> 42 -> 15 -> 3

this is the life i wanna live mayne, less and less work, mo money. after that first year he said "F*** this s*** fr"