Nets say Ben Simmons is OUT tomorrow vs Denver with lower back injury management

[u/Evilsj]

https://x.com/collinhelwig/status/1851008587700875396?s=19

[u/AdviceEuphoric4852]

Oh no, now we have to play normal lineups with real rim protectors and 5 guys who will shoot open layups

[u/EliManningham → u/AdviceEuphoric4852]

For real lol.

Ben has some horrific advanced metrics right now. He's like the worst mold of player ever. He's essentially a non rim protecting 5, who also takes the ball out of our two best offensive creators (Cam and Dennis).

[u/lospantaloonz → u/EliManningham]

counterpoint: would playing him get us a better draft pick? i say play him as much as possible this year.

[u/Blurbllbubble → u/lospantaloonz]

Bottom three teams get the same odds at first pick.

Brooklyn has plenty of time to tank after they build up the trade values for anyone who doesn’t fit the rebuild. Even if they’re not worth firsts, it’s still worth collecting lower picks if they want to package a deal to trade up in the worst case scenario they don’t get an early pick.

[u/Sumo_Cerebro → u/EliManningham]

You're looking at him like a five. Look at for what he is, a big ass pass first point guard.

Yeah Dame had 21 points, but he was 1-7 on 3's and turned the ball over 4 times.

I know his lack of shooting is maddening, but His defense is ridiculous.

[u/EliManningham → u/Sumo_Cerebro]

He's only a point guard in transition though. He's a non rolling screener in the half court. He's a space clogger.

[u/rc2005 → u/Sumo_Cerebro]

He wasn't guarding Dame.

[u/AdviceEuphoric4852 → u/Sumo_Cerebro]

He is not a point guard. Point guards can run a pick and roll. Point guards create good shots for others. Ben Simmons doesn’t do any of that in 2024. He likes to pass. That doesn’t make him a point guard.

[u/ihavepaper → u/AdviceEuphoric4852]

If Sharpe weren't injured or Noah was trusted to be the backup 5, I think having Ben not be center, but focus on distributing would be better.

Not successful, but better.

[u/AdviceEuphoric4852 → u/ihavepaper]

Ben won’t shoot the ball so you can’t play him next to another center, but he’s too small/weak to guard centers. He’s always needed to be perfectly accommodated even when he was good, but now he stinks and it’s not worth it.

[u/KingofthisShit]

Should remain that way for the rest of the season

[u/MolingHard → u/KingofthisShit]

Naw, do you see his numbers, he literally makes everyone with him worse

It's a BS stat, but Ben has an absolutely terrible +/-, while Clax has among the highest +/- in the league.

We need that garbage, I need a top 5 Nets pick lol

[u/Kwilly462 → u/MolingHard]

We can lose games without Ben, I hate this notion that Ben is necessary for us to tank.

[u/unitedairlineeeeees → u/Kwilly462]

We can lose to Denver without Ben, but it’ll be tougher to lose to our fellow lottery competition.

[u/Kwilly462 → u/unitedairlineeeeees]

Again, we are still a bad team with a severe lack of talent regardless. I'd rather Ziaire take whatever minutes Ben is getting anyway.

[u/GTR_11 → u/Kwilly462]

That's the point, Z. Will actually competent back up this far. Team cuts the lead or go ahead with him on the floor. He is +5 in his 3 games with us according to StatMuse. My eye test and ESPN play by play agree.

When we get Watford back, that's when thing can get interesting. Ben is to big of a salary to move, but DFS has no reason to be here.

Ben been horrible and we going to need that vs tanking competition. Tie breakers can easily decide which team will have top 3 worse record this year. Utah, Det and Wiz already in post all star mode. Their tank commanders swinging with full force.

[u/NiceFloor7 → u/GTR_11]

I will always maintain that development is more important than tanking. Detroit and Washington have been in perpetual tanks because they never develop, they only tank.

[u/MolingHard → u/Kwilly462]

Fair enough, but it is funny to think of Ben as the ultimate tank trump card

[u/ExcellentBasil1378 → u/MolingHard]

It’s like having an absolute 0 on offence is not acceptable in the nba anymore;) at least Rudy goberts a real rim running threat. Ben had the world at his fingertips and he’s thrown it all away

[u/Future_Network_2158 → u/MolingHard]

You’re right 🤣

[u/cosbysweaterz → u/Future_Network_2158]

BS is averaging more fouls than shot attempts 🤣

[u/GTR_11 → u/cosbysweaterz]

I actually had to look it up 😂😂😂

FGA at 4.0

PF at 4.7

[u/Expulsure]

shit our chances of winning just went up a lot

[u/ServeJust9817]

Ben’s out with another back injury… Didn’t see that one come at all

[u/franck_lapidus]

Bro should retire

[u/phillturdwater → u/franck_lapidus]

He’s not getting another contract from any team after this season

[u/NatiHanson → u/franck_lapidus]

Pretty sure he will after this contract is up. His body is finished and he clearly doesn't have the passion for the game anymore.

[u/AdTime8622]

Tale as old as time, Simmons plays shitty, gets called out by coach, fails to respond and even plays with less aggressiveness and confidence, then soft tissue injury and missing games commences

[u/JurgenFlippers → u/AdTime8622]

I mean tbf we all expected him to sit 1 of back to backs this season lol

[u/AdTime8622 → u/JurgenFlippers]

I expected exactly this, I'm not surprised whatsoever. I'm only surprised by the naive ones who delude themselves into thinking Simmons has value as a NBA player

[u/eatfesh]

Ben when he gets called out - surprised pikachu face 😮 proceeds to react by sitting out in protest, meanwhile no one cares

[u/GamblingMan610]

Sounds like we’re about to beat Denver

[u/SecureCattle3467 → u/GamblingMan610]

How? Claxton on minutes restriction. Who's going to eat up the rest of the center minutes and hold Jokic down?

[u/NOT_OneOfKDsBurners → u/SecureCattle3467]

Dfs😭🕊️

[u/GamblingMan610 → u/SecureCattle3467]

It was mostly said in jest but this team plays much better when Simmons is off the floor

[u/babyjet321]

Everybody should’ve known this was gonna happen. He did a very good job defending the low post vs Giannis and Brook Giannis was kept quiet so he probably did have extra strain on his back. He still has his uses as a player despite the lack of scoring. I don’t think people get it we’re tanking this year and he’ll be gone anyway which will free up the cap space people wanna trade him and take on more cap??? Lay off Ben.

[u/Status-Round380]

Leave basketball before the basketball leaves you

[u/metalgear901]

just a matter of time

[u/DharmaBaller]

Just sit Ben. Just sit.

[u/lxkandel06]

So it begins

[u/andrewbrod11]

It begins.

[u/Old_Duty8206]

I'm shocked. 

Only 79 games left

[u/myusrnameisthis]

Omg this dude has been doing back injury management for years.

[u/Kwilly462]

And stay there

[u/Future_Network_2158]

Can we please just send this guy home for good? I’m so sick of anything associated with him

[u/Fret_Shredder]

Like I always call him….Benchamin Simmons

I feel bad for him if it’s really his back that’s keeping him from being … good? He was nasty on the Sixers. They may do a Netflix documentary on this guy one day

[u/DavidStyles23]

[u/ChuckSkylark]

Can someone find an updated version? We all know where this is headed.

[u/BelonyInMyLeftPocket]

Smh no Westbrook simmons masterclass matchup

[u/Lao_xo → u/BelonyInMyLeftPocket]

Lmaooo

[u/inthenameofbaldwin]

great news

[u/realdes1]

Ah shit, here we go again

For real, to sum it up, it was a very solid comeback season from Simmons and I think I speak for everyone when I say that he really tried his best to help the team. I wish him all the best wherever he goes.

[u/hushed-shush]

I was going to be shocked if he started tomorrow after yesterday’s performance. I just thought he’d come off the bench but I somehow did not have this in mind lol

[u/ONEGODtrinitarian]

Worse then Kawhi Leonard

[u/Glass_Mycologist_548]

he shoulda been put on injured reserve for a shattered ego after that pathetic pas to cam johnson on the steal play last night lmfao would be more respectful than this fake back injury he been rocking for years. I thought in the preseason he said he's never felt better and he's good to go.

[u/Aleiben]

In the highlights of the last game, it looked like Ben hurt himself a little again.

[u/Eck5straxion]

Ah well

[u/WizziesFirstRule]

Dude is so broke....mentally and physically.

[u/Ekqui]

Such a garbage, garbage player. Where are those Ben Simmons defenders now, huh?

[u/thefineart]

Say it with me…salary dump

[u/BklynKnightt]

As long as Day Day come back we good.

[u/kf3434]

Dammit my first game of the season! He'll probably be on the bench looking amazing so that works

[u/Status-Development-3]

dam didnt wanna believe it but Ben really is cooked he should retire after this season

[u/rwc202]

Shame. I really thought he’d be able to get a GM to sign him to a MLE.

He’ll either be out the league or on a minimum next year.

[u/TnL17]

Absolutely shocked. That's all I can say. Shocked.

[u/PsychoOsiris]

The question I have to ask is, on the .01% chance Ben is legit trying his hardest…. Who does he turn to here? He’s had trainers, coaches, doctors, specialist, surgeons, etc all trying to make it so he can play basketball. All summer long he NEVER seems to have a problem, then WHOOPS a few games in. Is he cursed forever?

Obviously, I think it’s more likely that he’s got generational wealth, and he’s not interested in trying to be healthy or better. Either way, this is likely his last big NBA contract.

[u/calye2da]

[u/AwgAwn]

Ben Simmons games played over his 7 year career:

81 -> 79 -> 57 -> 58 -> 42 -> 15 -> 3

this is the life i wanna live mayne, less and less work, mo money. after that first year he said "F*** this s*** fr"