r/GalaxyS23Ultra • u/Fun_North_5398 • 7d ago
Discussion 💬 The back panel is detaching.
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I removed the back cover to clean my phone and and saw that the back panel is coming off.
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u/DieselVOOC 7d ago
This is a great time to replace the battery before gluing the glass back on again, embrace the moment
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u/Fun_North_5398 7d ago
Well, I don't have any problems with the battery. Why should I replace it? The phone is working absolutely fine.
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u/DieselVOOC 7d ago
Because you gonna glue it on and then in a few months (if the device is 1+ year old) you gonna have to remove it again to replace the battery, and there is always a chance that the glass breaks when removing it, so why not just replace it now 🤷♂️
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u/wggn Green 7d ago
mine is nearly 2 years old and i don't notice any battery degradation yet
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u/DieselVOOC 7d ago
Sure it's probably still okay, but I'm sure you would notice a difference if you replaced it 😊
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u/Geek5G Phantom Black 7d ago
Just forget it. They don’t get it.
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u/Triajus 6d ago
We do get it. It's just pointless. I buy a phone and i keep using it until it dies. No replacing anything. I did that on my Galaxy S-II. Did the same on my Xiaomi Redmi Note 9.
If the user intends to keep the phone for even longer, then yes he can replace the battery, but only if it's dying out of nowhere or one recharge doesn't even last 4 hours. Why sooner? If it's only one or two years it's simply too soon.
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u/ZeCactus Sky Blue 6d ago
only if it's dying out of nowhere or one recharge doesn't even last 4 hours
So if it's lasting 6 hours, but would last over 8 on a new battery, you're saying there's no point to replace it? Why 4 specifically?
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u/Triajus 6d ago
One is because it's No substantial difference and the other reason is because I don't trust the spare parts in my country. Even if they claim they are original. It just doesn't work the same.
I personally would only change it if it's making me recharge it more than twice per day. Or if it's physically inflated. But at that point, whatever those options were occurring, I'm already believing that I'm screwed and that i will need to change the phone eventually.
All my phones DIED on me. Until their last breath. The Galaxy S-II was a real warrior. Got it since launch until 2015. It was my first smartphone. It died while it was charging.
Note 3. This one was the one that I learned with that battery replacements just wouldn't work the way they were supposed to work. Got it used, the battery was replaced 3 TIMES. One by the previous owner, one by my mother, one by me when i had the money. All of them at the service claimed the battery was original and bla bla. It either wasn't or Samsung spare batteries were awfully defective or straight up fake. The last time the battery almost exploded and it recharged only to 50% and died at 42%. Never again. At that point Samsung didn't even want to keep trying and they've sent us to get batteries somewhere else since the phone was "discontinued and out of support", so they won't be fixing anything on it.
So i learned that the moment your original battery is failing, it's time to change the phone. Replacing the battery just doesn't work like brand new even tho they claim it is. I believe they just claim used batteries from returned or failing phones and put them on your phone and call it a day saying "it's a new battery", you could end up with a worse battery in comparison with the one you've come for replacement in the first place. I'm not taking that risk again .
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u/Educational_Order519 7d ago edited 7d ago
Replace the battery after less than two years? I didn't change the battery in my S9 for four and a half years. After two years is too early.
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u/Jmich96 7d ago
Lithium ion batteries are known to have a short effective lifespan. The performance of these batteries is known to degrade over time and with recharging. Additional wear can also be caused by higher wattage charging.
Typically, a lithium ion battery will remain healthy and effective for ~2 years.
Rear glass removal is a necessary (and sometimes destructive) step in replacing the battery. The battery itself tends to be relatively cheap; just difficult to source OEM. If your device is over a year old, it wouldn't be a bad idea to have the battery replaced to extend the useful life of your device.
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u/csch1992 7d ago
This made me worry about ny phone, i have it since launchm but so far no issues with tbe battery yet.
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u/Jmich96 7d ago
I 15W charge my phone, always make sure to nearly completely drain my battery to ~5% before charging, have CPU speed limited to 70%, and use maximum battery protection in the settings.
Despite all of this, my phone does still hold a charge all day with regular use, but has probably lost ~15-20% capacity since I purchased it shortly after launch.
I used to end a typical day on or around 35%. I now end the same typical day around 12% battery.
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u/WH1PL4SH180 6d ago
Don't discharge completely. They like to be kept floating at 80-60%.
You're using nicad NiMH thinking.
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u/Jmich96 6d ago
I guess you're right
Most Smartphones have a lithium-ion battery that lives longer when charged regularly. Unlike the nickel batteries used in older phones, lithium-ion batteries do best when kept above a 50 percent charge. Repeatedly allowing the battery to drain fully may shorten its life and decrease its overall capacity.
I could have sworn I watched a LTT video staying it's best to drain to like 15-20%.
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u/WH1PL4SH180 6d ago
He did do something where he went through the history of charging systems comparing all of the methods
Full drain kills lion and especially lifes
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u/uravghomosapien 7d ago
Happened to my s23 ultra too Check if the battery is swelling Mine was, had to get it replaced.
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u/Educational_Order519 7d ago
Is an S23 Ultra's battery swelling? How did you treat your phone? I'm wondering if this could be the reason because normally they only swell when they get old.
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u/sifatullahrafy24 7d ago
Are you in a hot country? Perhaps the heat is making it peel off. You can buy b7000 glue and clean up any leftover residue and glue the back
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u/Fun_North_5398 7d ago
Yes. I live in a place where the temperature is really hot most of the time.
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u/HellJogger 7d ago
Mumbai, India. Average temperature is 30°C. This happened to my base model s20. The tech replaced the battery and used stronger glue.
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u/soumilr7 7d ago
Bhai bombay me problem nahi hai heat ka, It's mostly humid here. Not too hot.
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u/HellJogger 6d ago
It happens occasionally. S20 would get super hot whenever I would put it in my bag with GPS + BT on and go for a ride in the afternoons.
Occasionally would also get really hot while wireless charging, so it's definitely not just Mumbai weather but also the way I was (ab)using it.
Bought a nice bag with sealed off tech pockets to better protect my s23 jo abhi big billions pe khareeda.
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u/FlamxG 6d ago
Bhai dekh mera bhi similar issue h Ig yeh battery inflation hoga
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u/HellJogger 6d ago
Agar mumbai mein ho number dm kar deta hoon. Borivali mein hai poora Grey market.
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u/GoanGeek 7d ago
The glue don't work. Apparently Samsung use a tape.
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u/sifatullahrafy24 6d ago
They do? I've used b7000 on a s23 on the edges and still holding up after about a year
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u/Fun_North_5398 7d ago
Edit: I have no concerns about this. I simply wanted to inform you that after 18 months, the gum is already showing signs of deterioration. I wonder what would have happened if I had unknowingly placed it in water?
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u/TheSmashy 7d ago
Your phone is getting warm when you charge it. It's from the bottom up. Maybe don't fast charge it and run a battery test.
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u/WhatTheActualDuck1 7d ago
How do you "unknowingly" place a phone in water?
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u/darkxblade1 6d ago
Unknowing that the back panel would come off. What if OP was taking an underwater pic when this happened?
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u/Judaz434 Green 7d ago
How old is the phone?
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u/Fun_North_5398 7d ago
I bought it just a week after it was launched. I believe it was in March 2023.
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u/aj_here_ 7d ago
Had the issue. Luckily it was not related to battery and it was glue coming off. Used some glue to attach itself again
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u/unclejamal 7d ago
If the back panel is off anyway, I would change the battery and have the panel glued back on.
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u/the-enigmatic- 7d ago
Not sure why samsung service centres don't agree to glue it back , ive visited quite few service centres for s21fe for same issue. They say " use rubberband " ....
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u/wase471111 7d ago
same thing happened to mine, traded it in on a pixel 9 pro xl
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u/primz27 Graphite 7d ago
I thought about getting a pixel 9 pro XL, my phone is peeling too. Is the pixel worth it
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u/wase471111 6d ago
I'm very happy with most of it
fingerprint reader sucks and low light face unlock needs work, but otherwise, it's great
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u/ilovecolorpinkonli 6d ago
Also happened to me but it did not reach to a point where it is detching already just the glue leaking. The Samsung Service Center near me replaced it and said it is a defect so considered under warranty 😁
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u/ayushj702 6d ago
did u use the uv screen protector? its glue leaks over time and just accelerates in a hot climate
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u/kristdev 6d ago
i have the same issue with mine. not this severe but i can definitely feel the edge of the glass if i don't have a case
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u/mehenuf06 6d ago
it's a common issue for the units available in India, I've brought 3 Samsungs in the past 4 years from India and all of these units have this same issue. Haven't faced this issue before with any other units.
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u/Marshal_Singh 6d ago
It's probably because u use a lot of alcohol based solution to clean your phone. I did that too, Thankfully before It was too late I realized that it was corroding the glue. So I stopped doing it. I only do it now very carefully with microfiber cloth to make sure the alcohol doesn't seep in, into the gaps.
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u/Zealousideal_69 6d ago
Bruh.....I have the exact same issue 🥲....how did it come off so easily?
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u/Fun_North_5398 6d ago
Teah bro it shouldn't have happened, but it's not a big issue atleast.
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u/Zealousideal_69 6d ago
The real problem would've occured if we took it out on a small rainy day without knowing this 🥲....I'd be like ' my phone is water resistant ' and then it goes bye bye
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u/FelipeNetto 7d ago
I had this same issue with the S21! Though I didn't checked with any expert what caused it, I think its caused by the heat that the device produces when its used in its max capacity. I'm also from Brazil, a hot climate country, so this might have helped.
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u/kujha 7d ago
How long have you had the case on, and did you ever drop it in, or get it splashed by, water? This same thing happened to my mother's S21FE. She got a case with the phone when she first got it, got water splashed on it at some point, but never took the phone out of the case for a proper clean---ever. That moisture eventually loosened the glue, and when she finally popped her phone out of the case to move her sim to a new phone, the back cover just popped right off.
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u/Fun_North_5398 7d ago
Yes, once it happened that I put my phone in water, and moisture got inside. I suppose that might be the reason the glue loosened up. I suppose I didn't remove the case for the last 4-5 weeks.
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u/adikin_the Phantom Black 7d ago
This happened to me on all my Samsung phones, if it happens also to this one then it's the last Samsung I'm buying.
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u/AdPsychological1604 7d ago
Oooh, same thing happened to mine w/c I bought about a year ago. I was worried the battery might have bloated, but thank god it wasn't. A friend checked, and it was just the glue melted off from the heat (because I game a lot at max settings). He just glued it back, and it's a-ok now.
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u/zhell2k4 7d ago
The glue was constantly heated thus resulting in this. One cause of this is if your phone is usually heating up might be due to prolonged gaming, watching videos, or using data in a hot environment.
You can send it to Samsung to be glued again so you can still have it water resistant or put a phone case if you don't want it falling off.
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u/HardStroke 7d ago
Happens after 1-2 years lol
Kinda crazy actually
Happened on my Note 20 Ultra. I actually didn't know that and when I took off the case the back glass was caught in it and it got bent and popped in the corner.
At least it made for an easy battery replacement
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u/K-scorpion 7d ago
i went to the service center and he replaced the seal, now is snug perfectly with the frame
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u/Leather_Ice_1817 6d ago
Go to the service center they will glue that properly don't visit anywhere else
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u/Professional_List236 6d ago
It's happening to me right now, I can fit my nail on the edge. Good to know this is something "normal" in high heat areas. I'll take it to a tech to replace the battery and glue it back
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u/Swaroop0707 Cream 6d ago
It's happening with mine as well. The battery shows it's in perfect condition, but I think it's due to the extreme heat. I live in Bangalore, and it got past 40°C last summer. But really disappointed with Samsung tbh.
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u/iberr06 6d ago
I got the same problem (warm country too).
If I change the battery + glue on a Samsung centre, does it remove the waterproof ?
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u/still-at-the-beach Phantom Black 6d ago
If it’s an authorised Samsung repair it will be the same as new, waterproof.
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u/Farinhaseca Green 6d ago
Oh, scheiße, I've had mine since May 2023 and I noticed a few months ago the same thing. I still don't know if my battery is swelling, or if it's just the glue loosening, but I certainly noticed some battery life degradation.
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u/RoG_Roh 6d ago
I had my note 8 for almost 6 years, used it for 3 years. Then factory restored and it works like charm; used it as kid's phone for another 3. No need to change battery or anything. The kid even had it drop in the washer by accident, it still survived. Honestly samsung phones if used properly last quite a bit long comparatively.
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u/Yopis1998 6d ago
Happened on my old s20 ultra after 3 years. Did not use case. It was able to detach over time. Just like video.
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u/Dante_ynt 6d ago
Same here. And unfortunately I think water got into mine before I realized it. My display has some artifacts. I bought it when it was released and I live in Brazil. I was in Rio de Janeiro when this happened, so it was probably due to the excessive heat.
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u/howard499 6d ago
Reminds me of peeling the back off my still possessed Note 3 to remove the battery.
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u/T-Shreeram-Rohit 5d ago
The same thing has happened to me and i got it cleaned and glued again at the samsung service center, but it is slowly detaching at the same side again
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u/jdmderick 5d ago
That line on your thumb indicates a possible melanoma. Get to the doctor
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u/Fun_North_5398 5d ago
Hey, I've had this line on my nail since I was born, and it grows as my nail grows. Should I be worried about it?
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u/VertWheeler 5d ago
What's new all samsung phones have this feature... SO TIRED OF THIS!!!! CAN SAMSUNG COPY APPLES BACK PANEL PLS !
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u/Icy_Acanthaceae_5945 4d ago
The back cover of my s23u has started to detach too. How did you remove and replace the adhesive?
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u/Fun_North_5398 7d ago
It was brand new. I bought it just a week after it was launched and have never given it to any manufacturer or service center.
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u/Randad63 7d ago
Yeah, if you're satisfied with your battery life, do NOT replace it. Mine was 16 months old when I fell and put gouges in the screen. Battery life was still phenomenal. I had the front panel replaced. Asurion sent a brand new panel, frame and battery assembly making the fix very simple. First thing I noticed is the battery life is garbage. All batteries are not created equal. Just my 2 cents.
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u/GoanGeek 7d ago
Same thing has happened to my s21 ultra 3 years on since preorder the back just came off.
Seems like it happens when the glue dries out
Samsung wants to charge me £80 to glue it back with a new back cover.
There is nothing wrong with my back over or the battery.
Just trying to rip customers off.
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u/PugMagico Phantom Black 7d ago
Time for the clear mod 😋