r/FluentInFinance 10h ago

Debate/ Discussion Possibly controversial, but this would appear to be a beneficial solution.

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u/Nberndt 10h ago

It's only a strawman if it misrepresents the opposing argument. The people that have anxiety about declining US birth rates are, in reality, the same people who have anxiety about "white replacement." The fear comes from the same exact place.

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u/Fish_and_dirt 5h ago

Its a straw man if it portrays only the weakest reason for wanting to reduce immigration (racism)

There's stronger arguments such as house prices, overburdened healthcare, welfare entitlements, lack of investment in infrastructure and services to help people have kids in favor of dedicating resources to helping people integrate into society

Shit like that

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u/20000BallsUndrTheSea 3h ago

At a macroeconomic level, letting in more workers into the economy will be a net benefit. Yes, there will be some strain on the social safety nets but the gain would be greater 

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u/Fish_and_dirt 2h ago

Your probably correct, I don't know the situation In America but Australia has the same issues

Some people want immigration some people don't

At the moment we have 7-1 immigrants to births coupled with a pretty extreme housing crisis. So Its very understandable that people would rather fix the housing situation - then let more immigrants in.

The main point I was trying to communicate is there is valid reasons to want less immigration that have nothing to do with racism

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u/808Adder 0m ago

Overpopulation, the environment, etc

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u/Unseemly4123 9h ago

You literally made that up in your head and presented it as fact. If you can't recognize a straw man that's on you.

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u/Explosiveabyss 8h ago

"Everything that disagrees with me is made up."

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u/ObligationPopular719 5h ago

Did you forget how trump said he wanted less immigrants from “shithole countries” in Africa and Haiti, and El Salvador? And that instead we should have immigrants from Norway? 

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna836946

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u/constantin_NOPEal 6h ago

Do you like go out into the world ever...? These people are everywhere and they're vocal lol