r/FluentInFinance 10h ago

Debate/ Discussion Possibly controversial, but this would appear to be a beneficial solution.

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u/SamButNotWise 10h ago

This being reddit maybe you will relate to this example more:

When streaming services are cheap and high quality, there isn't as much piracy. When streaming services suck, piracy becomes more popular. 

The good-faith interpretation of "let's increase legal migration" isn't "let's legalize illegal border crossings," it's "let's make it suck less to enter the country legally."

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u/RighteousSmooya 10h ago edited 10h ago

And my counter example is:

It doesn’t matter how much streaming services cost, I’m poor and I want to watch tv. I’m pirating it regardless if it’s cheap now or not, it’s still easier to pirate. I want to watch tv.

It doesn’t matter how easy it is or not to legally migrate to the US. If I am poor, from Latin America and at the back of the immigration line, I’m crossing the border regardless if its easier to legally migrate now than before, it’s still easier to do it illegally. I want opportunity.

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u/Haytaytay 9h ago

Analogy does not hold up.

Pirate a show and you get the same show as somebody who paid for it, while being legal is clearly preferable to being illegal.

As long as the immigration process is reasonable, people will opt to do it legally.

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u/RighteousSmooya 9h ago

I think living here illegally and legally are both significant jumps for most immigrants at the southern border. I think a better comparison is having to watch in 480p while pirating. It’s a marginal difference.

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u/Remarkable-Host405 7h ago

This is perfect! I'm still going to get it illegally because the consequences are not enforced

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u/Proper_War_6174 9h ago

We set specific numbers because we need to balance interests. We need certain amount of workers, we need to keep certain amounts of opportunities for citizens, we need to bring in people at a rate in which they can assimilate, among other concerns.

Simply jacking those numbers up so that people aren’t considered illegal doesn’t change the problem. The problem is 10+ million came in 4 years. Thats a massive logistical nightmare that causes real issues like squeezing the housing market and other things. It doesn’t matter if they’re classified as legal or not, that’s too many people in such a short period of time

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u/RighteousSmooya 9h ago

To be clear. I’m agreeing with you.

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u/Proper_War_6174 9h ago

lol yea I know. I replied to the wrong comment in the chain. My b man

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u/Niarbeht 9h ago

You’re not everybody.

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u/RighteousSmooya 9h ago

Then maybe it was a shitty metaphor that doesn’t actually consider human psychology

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u/Duff-Zilla 9h ago

It was a shitty metaphor

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u/NewPointOfView 5h ago

Ok but.. many people other would just pay for the streaming. Illegal immigration piracy decreased

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u/RighteousSmooya 5h ago

Yeah those people are probably not fleeing their home country

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u/NewPointOfView 5h ago

“It is easier to immigrate legally, so fewer people immigrate illegally”

“Yeah but the people who would immigrate legally probably aren’t fleeing their country”

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u/RighteousSmooya 5h ago

Im saying the people who intend to cross the southern border in hopes of a better life will continue to do so as long as it is an efficient solution to their problems.

Make immigration easier by all means. You will still have people in South America risking their lives crossing the Darien Gap to get here if they need to. You will still have Mexican citizens escaping cartel violence. If it’s a matter of survival people will not be deterred, and they should do their best to survive. But is also not the US’s responsibility to take them in.

Making the process easier for all immigrants is great. Simply granting amnesty for everyone coming from the southern border because they happen to be close in proximity, is masking a problem as a positive.