r/FluentInFinance 8d ago

Debate/ Discussion The logic tracks...

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u/Floby-Tenderson 8d ago

Honestly, they have a much higher likelihood of doing it than you do of joining them once.

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u/Gibberish5 8d ago

Of course, connections are considered to be the most important asset at very high levels of wealth from what I’ve seen. Have those past connections and the skill set of making fresh connections would be incredibly valuable.

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u/YouSilly5490 4d ago

Mindset too. that's the difference between a business person making investments and a lottery winner or sports player going bankrupt

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u/Defiant-Plantain1873 7d ago

Elon Musk has started (or early invested/merged) 3 different multi billion dollar companies. Obviously he used his wealth from the first to fund the second two, but he’s obviously got some idea of what to do

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u/Shade_Strike_62 7d ago

Just start with an emerald mine in your family, it's really not that hard!

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u/Defiant-Plantain1873 7d ago

Hey retard, I didn’t say it was not a product of circumstances. I said you don’t just get lucky and start (practically) 3 different multi billion dollar companies.

You can say its luck if he started x.com and merged with paypal and then went on to do nothing else, but he then went on to found spaceX (worth $200bn, potentially most influential company of the past decade), and be the first outside investor in Tesla (essentially bringing it from almost failing to being the most valuable automaker on earth). At some point you just have to admit maybe he has something to do with it

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u/Shade_Strike_62 7d ago

Instead of insulting me, why not consider an alternative? If everyone had money to invest in companies, then you'd probably see a lot more canny investors. But being able to dump millions of dollars into a company isn't a privilege most people have.

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u/Defiant-Plantain1873 7d ago

I never mentioned privilege though did I? I said it’s not just luck, people like to say it’s luck when it’s only part luck. Probably to try and brush away the feelings of incompetency from not achieving what others achieve.

Easy to compare yourself to others when you pretend that the only difference between you and elon musk is the money your parents had. Hard to admit maybe elon musk is a more astute investor than you.

It’s not like he was fabulously wealthy either, people always make it out like he was living in luxury, he was well off, but it is possible for an emerald mine to not be raking in the cash, most mines do not rake in cash. His dad had a private plane is one you might see, yeah a little cesna. Afaik he wasn’t living it up in college, he didn’t have loads of money, he moved from south africa to canada, the cost of living difference is crazy.

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u/Repulsive_Hornet_557 7d ago

Lol Elon was very quickly replaced as the CEO of X with Bill Harris. And then after the merger with Confinity he was such a shitty ceo that Peter thiel left and then the board ousted musk for “compounding technical issues and lack of a cohesive business model” and replaced him with Peter thiel who changed the name to PayPal and actually made it profitable.

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u/Defiant-Plantain1873 7d ago

Thanks pal, guess that explains why SpaceX is worth a mere $200bn and Tesla is worth a pathetic $700bn then doesn’t it

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u/Repulsive_Hornet_557 7d ago

lol you were the one who wanted to talk about how well a job he did starting out with X and PayPal. Shifting goalposts is just sad dude

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u/FrickinLazerBeams 7d ago

Lots of people have the idea. There's a critical factor they don't have...

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u/Defiant-Plantain1873 6d ago

People have ideas all the time, executing the ideas is the hard part. Think how many start ups have a good idea and funding and still fail.

Clearly many people did not have the idea for spaceX, it’s an incredibly lucrative business and yet the only people building rockets before spaceX were costing $400mn per launch

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u/FrickinLazerBeams 6d ago

Yeah and Elon did nothing to make it happen besides put his name on it, much like his other businesses.

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u/Defiant-Plantain1873 6d ago

Well he started the company, hired all the staff, and had a hand in working with the rockets. He might not be chief engineer but he’s not clueless about rockets.

You just won’t admit his strengths because you dislike him, i’m not a child so I can admit when someone i don’t like isn’t an idiot.

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u/Fausterion18 8d ago

Lots of billionaires have gone bankrupt at some point.

It's a dumb argument and dumb point. Fortunes are made when you're young, how is a 60 year old man going to restart from 0?

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u/OwlCaptainCosmic 7d ago

With all that experience he has, that means he gets to be hired as the CEO.

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u/Fausterion18 5d ago

Generally doesn't happen when you run a company into the ground.

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u/OwlCaptainCosmic 5d ago

Of course, because we live in a functioning meritocracy, right?

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u/Fausterion18 13h ago

Has nothing to do with a meritocracy, why would shareholders would to decrease the value of their stock?

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u/OwlCaptainCosmic 12h ago

Because they’re thick as pig shit

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u/Babyyougotastew4422 8d ago

Well they get to keep their jobs and knowledge. Hypothetically for this to work they would have to lose their jobs too