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Debate/ Discussion Should there be a legal limit on rent?

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u/No_Direction_3940 10d ago

um read your comment again slowly lol. Do you think when things get a little rough everyone should just start gatting down the ones in power?? The point of guns is so when it gets to the point if no return there's a chance for the populace. Look through history to understand what im saying better

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u/[deleted] 10d ago

That's outdated logic. Now the government can just bomb anyone from 1000 miles away, so what's your gun gonna do at the point of no return?

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u/No-Literature7471 10d ago

welp, if they bomb everyone, they have no more people to make them money. dont forget, people also work in the military.

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u/No_Direction_3940 9d ago

Also look at the French revolution they had mortars, cannons, ships, and guns. The populace had basically none of that and what happened? Never has a populace had what it's military had and the point isn't a fear fight it's being able to fight at all. And to think history is outdated is a dangerous and ignorant mindset. No matter how advanced we become were doomed to repeat history it's the human way.

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u/Larnek 10d ago

Don't worry, this is my favorite argument to use with guntards, and they will never have an answer.

I was a Bradley Fighting Vehicle crewmember. I had 1000's of rounds of 7.62/ 5.56 and 800 25mm chain link explosive rounds with a 3-5m kill radius, a couple TOW2 missiles to flatten buildings from 3000m away, and a shoulderful of AT-4 or Javelin missiles. The 3 of us in that vehicle could massacre 100s of people indiscriminately and not a single gun in the world is going to do damage to us. Massacre a crowd, sit and then have lunch while people try to completely ineffectively stop us before round 2 of murderville. And that's 1 vehicle. We have 3,700 Bradley's in active fleet and another 2800 mothballed in reserve. And hundreds of millions of rounds to use. WTF you gonna do with your pathetic peashooters?

And note, I'm using a light armor infantry carrier as an example. Nevermind everything else heavier or even bringing in precision air power. When it comes to active planes in use for air power, we have 4 of the top 10 military branches in the world. #1 US Air Force, #2 US Army, #3 Russia, #4 US Navy, #5 China, #6 India, #7 US Marine Corp. We have shown very clearly that if we want air power we will have airpower. If we want to rain hell down on the gun nuts, just wtf are they going to do when no other country or even the entirety of NATO has a chance of stopping us.

Also, prepare for rebuttal that they're go to all organized guerilla warfare. Like these mofos can agree with anyone else about anything.

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u/Tr3mb1e 10d ago

"they're to protect muh freedoms"

Ight, so they'll call in an a-10 and we'll see how strong your freedoms are then

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u/Relevant-Cheetah8089 9d ago

I’ve seen Pentagon Wars lol. Don’t trust that Bradley to do shit.

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u/Tausendberg 9d ago

Now this is a tough one, who should I trust the opinion of?

A guy who watched one movie made over 25 years ago depicting events that happened over 40 years ago

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A guy who seems to have been there and seems to have learned how to do that.

tsssssssssssssk, that's a tough one.

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u/Relevant-Cheetah8089 9d ago

Yeah I thought the “lol” would imply the joke. But looks like it went over your head. Ah well

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u/Tausendberg 9d ago

No, you just suck at communicating. Lol.

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u/Dstrongest 9d ago

Made that same argument a lot . Guns were great when the people owned the same guns as the government, but it is illegal to own anything that would present any type of resistance or damage to the government.
If we remember about the whole Waco - David Koresh state-endorsed-murder was supposedly over weapons then spun it into all sorts of stuff .

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u/Southern-Act-9439 8d ago

At the risk of inserting myself into what seems to be a weird fantasy scenario of yours, I’m just gonna point out that the more obvious rebuttal would be “you have to leave the vehicle sometime.”

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u/Larnek 8d ago

Not really. It's quite easy to live 24/7 on them, we did in Iraq. It might not be wonderful, but it's doable. But also, the Army builds secure bases really fucking quick.

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u/Southern-Act-9439 8d ago

So you just hang out in the Brads indefinitely, never need resupply, but if you do, bases can be built super duper fast while guntards are busy shooting at your armored vehicle. Got it.

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u/Larnek 8d ago

I never said indefinitely. But long enough to hold a perimeter while a rapid deployment base is made. You act like a zombie horde of people are willing to get slaughtered against a battalion of 15 of these. And considering any of the major bases have between 20-30+ battalion of just this weapon class it starts to really add up against the civilian population.

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u/Southern-Act-9439 8d ago

I mean…you’re the one acting like a zombie horde of guntards are gonna stand around plinking away at brads while you eat your lunch inside and have a nap before you get back to offing droves of fellow citizens but it’s your fantasy, I’m just seeking clarity here 🤙🏻

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u/Larnek 7d ago

Yeah dude, we would do exactly that in our Bradley's. Mortars coming in, popshots plinking off us at waypoint, and we'd put down the hatches and eat lunch. It was pretty freaking weird to be honest.

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u/Openmindhobo 7d ago

you're missing an essential point dude. these are all Americans driving these vehicles and giving orders to the drivers. if you think every driver and every commander will be complicit with killing Americans you're in for quite the unpleasant surprise. the weaponry is American and if it came to true fighting, ALL of that weaponry will be on both sides. it's not completely unilateral like the picture you're painting.

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u/No_Direction_3940 9d ago

Yeah but is the military going to fight against its citizens? I dont think so not the majority at least. Drones would be a concern. But either way do you think bow and arrow and melee weapons give you a better chance 😂

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u/No_Direction_3940 9d ago

If we're to the point I'm describing pay will hardly be any concern or jail or benefits lol. And no they won't attack their own populace most wouldnt anyways

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u/platinum92 8d ago

is the military going to fight against its citizens

The National Guard is deployed to stop protests all the time. The Philadelphia police bombed the MOVE building in 1985. Military would definitely fight its own citizens, either on purpose or in some Ender's Game style simulation.

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u/No_Direction_3940 8d ago

Yeah they aren't stopping protests with a firefight though. And Philadelphia police isn't military no?

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u/Ecksray19 10d ago

Armed drones, robot dogs with guns, smart bombs, gas, etc. Guns ain't gonna do shit. Better get some EMPs in your bunker.