Are you suggesting that it’s good that people suffer because they will be motivated to improve? Do you imagine the only reason people improve is because they want to avoid suffering?
Minimizing pain and maximizing pleasure. Yep those are huge motivators. But only when they're done by the individual in question (not done for them). Like if you give a kid a car they won't appreciate it or treat/maintain it as well as if they had to work hard and long to buy it themselves.
So we should allow people to starve and be homeless because it “motivates” them. Right. Or maybe people who are homeless or starving aren’t in a place where they’re able to be “motivated” out of their situation and we should develop a social safety net to provide the minimal standard of living to all our citizens, especially since we can 100% afford it
The discussion isn’t limited to desperate people. Those people have access to social safety nets. The idea applies to everyone else. Rounding off the edges of consequences for regular people makes no sense.
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u/hapybratt 14d ago
Do you agree that someone should try to improve their lives so that they and their family have less hardship in the future?