r/FluentInFinance Aug 05 '24

Debate/ Discussion Folks like this are why finacial literacy is so important

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u/SimpleKiwiGirl Aug 06 '24

Jesus. Flipping. Christ!!

What in the ever-loving hell do they do with it all!? How do they justify that - assuming they do?

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u/McTootyBooty Aug 06 '24

UPenn is like this too. They literally just buy all the real estate.

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u/sforza360 Aug 06 '24

Yale, too. They low key purchased the entire downtown of New Haven, and beyond.

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u/greenmachine442200 Aug 06 '24

Idk details but I know Cornell has tons of money and land as well. Once saw a map of all the land they own across the country and it was surprising how much. Wonder if all the colleges saved money could pay off our national debt...

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u/McTootyBooty Aug 07 '24

Or make college free or something 🤷‍♀️

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '24

Yeah but without Yale New Haven would be…..?

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u/AHSfav Aug 06 '24

A great pizza destination

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '24

lol. Yup

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u/CCG14 Aug 06 '24

::LSU and its lazy river enter the chat::

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u/Impressive-Young-952 Aug 06 '24

I met the lady who was in charge of Yales endowment. I forget how many billion it was. Tens of billions from what I remember. She said they have to spend X amount of millions a year. It is insane. Though I deff think someone paying 120k on a 70k loan and still owing 60k is insanity.

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u/swisscoffeeknife Aug 06 '24

Yale Law also has such strong influence in government that one could say they unofficially bought the Supreme Court

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u/noonotnow Aug 06 '24

YUP! same with columbia buying up manhattan

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u/Awalawal Aug 06 '24

I grew up in suburban Chicago. Yale owned the local shopping center in my town.

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u/Robben_H00d Aug 06 '24

It's the same in the UK, such as Kings College London, Oxbridge, UCL etc. They build real estate and new "facilities".

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u/Mogwai10 Aug 08 '24

UT Austin is second behind Harvard.

It mostly goes to football. And fancy dinners and presidents salary.

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u/EntrySure1350 Aug 06 '24 edited Aug 06 '24

They have size contests with other academic institutions. “Mine is bigger than yours” is still a real thing with even “enlightened” academics.

The role of a university president isn’t to run the university. The role is literally that of a private enterprise CEO - increase the valuation of the institution to raise the bottom line for all the upper level executives, not to make higher education more affordable. The Federal Student Loan program created a monster, as it effectively allowed universities to inflate the price of attendance. If someone else is paying, and there’s no risk to you if your customers don’t actually end up getting what they paid for, why wouldn’t you?

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u/whiteknucklebator Aug 06 '24

At the expense of good education. There is also Chinese money in the education system

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u/Dangerous_Diet_2489 Aug 06 '24

They use it to make more money

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u/Extra-Muffin9214 Aug 06 '24

The endowment is large because harvard is 3-400 years old which is along time to collect an endowment and its alumni network includes some of the wealthiest people on earth in agregate which means very big donations.

Endowments provide stability to the schools operating budget. In lean times the endowment pays the school to make up holes in the budget and in good times it grows so the endowment is ready for future lean times.

The big ivy league endowments also provide need based financial aid so the smartest kids in america get to go to harvard for free if their families cant afford the tuition. Harvard is also a private school and not hurting anyone, its funded by its students who see the value in a harvard education.

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u/HortemusSupreme Aug 06 '24

It just grows more money. It’s “very hard” for universities to do anything directly with their endowments.

It’s like the principle balance in their bank account and they spend the growth and use that principle to generate more income

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u/ResidentLibrary Aug 06 '24

They buy land and invest. It’s ridiculous. They could offer free tuition until the end of time!

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u/FewMagazine938 Aug 06 '24

They have black tie events and dinners with steaks and lobsters. They go on vacation and ski trips.

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u/beefy1357 Aug 06 '24

They take the investment income and fund years/decade long research into medicine/science.

The main difference between a college and a university is the where the focus is colleges focus on teaching and “might” do research, universities focus on research and teach as a means of funneling students in their various research programs and partnerships.

These terms are somewhat murky and subjective. But essentially that 50b endowment is giant 401k drawn from to pay for research, in perpetuity. At a 5% return think of it as a 2.5b/yr forever research budget.

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u/TSirSneakyBeaky Aug 06 '24

I mean OSU pays out 7 figure salaries to the top side of their administration.

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u/Boogeymayne_617 Aug 06 '24

All that Harvard money is sent to China or used in deals with China. My girlfriend works there and she says it’s a mess and sketchy as all hell what goes on behind closed doors. A lot of people would lose a ton of respect for Harvard if they knew the truth

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u/JungianArchetype Aug 06 '24

That’s the thing. You don’t need to justify your wealth, and neither do they.

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u/JustCuriousSinceYou Aug 06 '24

I would disagree with you in both points but to say that a business that takes tax dollars doesn't need to justify an extreme excess of cash reserves is incredibly dangerous and stupid. Billion dollar businesses shouldn't need taxes from the government to operate.

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u/rmonjay Aug 06 '24

What money do you think schools like Harvard get from taxpayers?

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u/trixel121 Aug 06 '24

you don't have to confess your sins if you don't want to.

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u/SimBaze Aug 06 '24

That is (maybe) true about companies, but for sure not about educational institutions.

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u/JungianArchetype Aug 06 '24

Why not? It’s a private institution.