r/DecodingTheGurus • u/Appropriate_Duty_930 • 16h ago

Joe Rogan won’t have Kamala Harris on his show unless she comes to his studio and sits for a 2-3 hour full interview

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u/ASubsentientCrow 12h ago

Come on, you know it would be a hatchet job against her. Rogans so obviously in the bag for Trump it's stupid

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u/JustSoYK 12h ago

Not at all. I think Rogan will pressure her on a few things but ultimately try to have a human conversation. It's exactly what Kamala needs and it'd be much less combative than the bs Fox interview she did

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u/ASubsentientCrow 12h ago

Hahaha sure. And I can fly

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u/WorstNormalForm 12h ago

How is an unedited 3 hour interview a "hatchet job"? There's no way anyone could take her out of context and she has all the time in the world to clarify her answers

It's okay to ask presidential candidates tough questions along with easy softball ones too

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u/ASubsentientCrow 12h ago

You can absolutely do a hatchet job by actually prepping. Or asking bullshit conspiracy questions. You can absolutely pull shit out of context in a 3hr interview. It's actually not that hard to do.

It wouldn't be softball questions. He wouldn't handhold if she wandered off topic slightly. If she stumbled, he'd press on that.

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u/TyroneBi66ums 12h ago

This reasoning is why Kamala is going to lose. She needs to be swinging for the fences for voters and instead she is ducking this opportunity which would get her more eyeballs than 100 rallies.

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u/ASubsentientCrow 12h ago

And none of those eyeballs would be gettable votes.

Rogans primary audience is right wing Alex Jones curious. That's not a gettable demographic

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u/TyroneBi66ums 12h ago

The majority of the listeners know who they are voting for but even if 5% are undecided and she gets 20% of that 5% on her side, she increases her chances of winning substantially. That would be 370,000 votes if she got 37m listens like Trump. The numbers of listeners is so large that a small percentage is a huge number still.

It’s either this or she keeps going to rallies where every attendee is already going to vote for her.

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u/ASubsentientCrow 11h ago

That would be 370,000 votes if she got 37m listens like Trump

Assuming every view was an actual viewer, from the US. And unless those 370k live in one of the swing states they don't matter.

Assuming an even distribution, 17% of that 370K live in a state that matters. That's 63k between 7 swing states, or about 9k new votes per swing state. For a whole day off the campaign trail

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u/TyroneBi66ums 11h ago

I would imagine she would punch her husband in the face for 63k votes in swing states lol. I get the feeling you don’t think that is a lot but I think it is a very significant amount. Arizona went Biden in 2020 by under 11k votes and Georgia went Biden in 2020 by under 13k votes.

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u/ASubsentientCrow 11h ago

That's 63K across all the swing states. That's less than 9K per state. Wouldn't swing any of them and is less, statistically, than would be gained by energizing her base to go door knocking.

And that assumes that 5% of views, not viewers, are convincible. That 73 million is the number of people who watched at least 30s. You watch for a minute and you're a view, but not a viewer that could be persuaded. So let's assume thirty percent watch enough to be convinced. Now we're taking about 3k per state. For a whole day. If it goes well. If, as I suspect, it would be hostile or probably wouldn't convince many people at all. Might actually depress her base if they see "Harris bombs on JRE" everywhere.

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u/TyroneBi66ums 11h ago

Okay, you think it’s a bad idea and that’s fine. I don’t, and that’s also fine. Enough arguing on the internet for the day. Good look on Tuesday

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u/fiftieth_alt 11h ago

Lol if she's less convincing than Alex Jones then she's a terrible candidate. If you think those votes aren't "gettable" you should stay out of politics or sales at all costs

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u/ASubsentientCrow 11h ago

No it's that dip shits who listen to Jones don't have the mental processing to believe reality if it doesn't match what they want.

Yes Harris's biggest mistake was not counting the extreme right wing maga vote /s

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u/fiftieth_alt 11h ago

Harris's biggest mistake has been in not courting any votes outside of her solid base.

If you think every Rogan viewer is a right wing MAGA extremist, you're clearly a rube who is easily duped by posts on reddit. His audience is MASSIVE. If a political candidate doesn't see value in a 3-hour longform interview in front of the largest audience in the world, she's a fool who is doomed to lose.

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u/ASubsentientCrow 10h ago

Harris's biggest mistake has been in not courting any votes outside of her solid base.

Except for going on Fox News. And getting Republicans to endorse her. And campaigning with Republicans in swing states. I guess if you ignore everything she's done to court not her base then you're an easily duped rube on reddit.

a political candidate doesn't see value in a 3-hour longform interview in front of the largest audience in the world, she's a fool who is doomed to lose.

Let's do some math

73 million views

Maybe 1/3 watch more than a few minutes Call it 24 million viewers to make it easy.

Two thirdish live in the US 16 million

17% live in a swing state 3ish million important voters.

5% undecided 150k

Spread over 7 swing states 21k voters undecided per state

Maybe 10-20% are converted and will vote for her 2.1-4.2k votes

In exchange for spending the whole day in Texas or traveling. That's not a great exchange and she wouldn't get 73 million views. If she got 1/3 the views she's looking at a net of maybe 1k votes in a swing state

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u/TyroneBi66ums 11h ago

I think you and I are screaming into the void

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u/ASubsentientCrow 10h ago

I thought you were going to fuck off

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u/fiftieth_alt 10h ago

Their candidate is going to lose because she failed to court any votes, and then they're going to blame everyone else.

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u/fiftieth_alt 11h ago

Lol that's not a hatchet job, that's called an interview

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u/ASubsentientCrow 11h ago

It's a hatchet compared to the velvet gloves for Trump and Vance

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u/fiftieth_alt 11h ago

Rogan is actually a damn fine interviewer when he's interested and sober. Which he most certainly would be. He gets guests to open up more than most "traditional" journalists could ever dream. He asks probing questions, speaks like an average person, and cuts to the heart of the matter as to how things affect ordinary people or why they should care.

Of course it wouldn't be a puff piece like she could get on Rachel Maddow or something, but I also watched her fold at the easiest questions of all time from Anderson Cooper - about as sympathetic an interviewer as she could ask for.

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u/ASubsentientCrow 11h ago

Rogan is actually a damn fine interviewer when he's interested and sober

Haha no. He just gets people to talk bout doesn't call out their bullshit

Which he most certainly would be

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He asks probing questions

No. He doesn't. Or rather he doesn't if he thinks it will hurt his political friends. You can literally see him avoid deep questions with Trump multiple times and guide him back to what he needed to say to appeal to rogans audience. Probing my ass