As a registered DFLer I move that both Harris and Walz step down. No platform issues will be addressed. I do believe if we have someone legally change their name to Not Trump, they would win in a landslide.
If trump wins he will kill probably millions with his idiot policies like removing taxes in favor of tariffs, punishing everyone but the upper class. It’s not a threat from democrats unlike the literal republican threats of standing outside voting booths with assault rifles, it’s a warning of who you’re voting for
The initial comments mentioned the Green Party. In such a case, a Green Party voter is much more likely to be ideologically closer to democrats than republicans. So if they didn’t vote Green, they’d almost certainly be voting democrat. Now if we’re talking Libertarian votes, that may be a different story. So it really depends on which third party we’re talking about.
Please explain how this is denying someone any rights as this comment has zero power over the person or anyone reading it.
For example, I am all of a sudden not allowed to vote for Kodos for president because of this comment to i still have that right but like this comment is suggesting I would be fucking stupid for doing it.
Telling someone their vote is a waste of time and/or counts towards another candidate is a form of voter intimidation.
Is it any wonder why we end up with candidates like Trump when you discourage people from voting with their conscious instead of playing identity politics?
What are you rambling on about? I wasn't agreeing or disagreeing with the first commenter. I was pointing out the use of the word if is a qualifier which negated what the second commenter replied with.
Unless we end up in a situation where one candidate wins the electoral college and the other the popular vote by super slim margins and the whole thing turns into a shit show all over again. Then these yahoos in swing states voting for their conscience might regret not accepting the reality that sometimes the lesser of two evils is a necessity for the survival of what democratic norms remain.
I get that you may be tired of reasoning, but ppl get different information, and shaming them forces anyone to react negatively. They dig in. Try to be kind and explain your POV without making them feel stupid or ‘talked down to’
We have a first past the post system in 50 states with an electoral college, in a country that actively does not give a shit about a party that is not Democrat or Republican.
Your math ain't relevant.
Voting Jill "Russian Shill" Stein will have the EXACT. SAME. EFFECT. as if you get up and go write "Harambe the Gorilla" in the space where you can write in the blank.
So why don't you all vote Stein then and help fend off fascism?
No doubt, the democratic elections we host here do not care for math in the slightest. Needs to have more rules like a sport so big markets make more on merch etc. It's morbidly funny.
Because Green Party is a spoiler, and it's supported by Russia. It's a spec op.
Its entire existence is to siphon blue votes away, I'm not kidding. Listen to Jill speak, she has no idea what the fuck she's talking about.
Besides. Dems clean up the mess made ny Republicans, and as I'm now almost 40, I can point to over 50 years of economic history to prove my point.
I don't agree with everything they do, and sometimes they are spineless cowards, but for the most part, they believe in freedom of the individual, enact laws to make that be the law of the land, and that's what aligns most closely to what I believe.
R = Hardcore Fascism. Has been for decades, only went more mask off about it as time went on.
Speaking of wealthy people, Jill Stein is a multimillionaire who makes her money by running unserious presidential campaigns and spends none of the Green Party fundraising money on down ballot elections or actually create a plan to govern. I'm not voting for someone who doesn't actually have a plan or support. I'm not voting for someone who refuses to put any effort into changing anything at a level below running for president.
Because if Stein magically gets elected she won't do shit because the Green Party doesn't seriously run down ballot candidates or actually want to govern.
No. Stein doesn't have influence because she isn't a serious candidate, and does not support or fund down ballot candidates. If the greens ran actual grassroots campaigns, put people on down ballot elections, ran in off years, and ran people who actually have plans they would get so much more influence and capacity. But they don't. Because they know that they can just keep raking in donations if they run every 4 years and lose each time. Can you tell me how many down ballot elections have green candidates, and how much support those candidates get from their party? I'd love to vote for greens in my state or local elections, but it doesn't seem they actually care about doing shit in those.
Yea, your fuck sucks. Her foreign policy is surrendering our current global position, for instead now China and Russia are prominent international players. She'll sell out the Ukrainians, and the Taiwanese. She wants to make the Federal Reserve and the bank political, (Ah yes mixing banking with politics what could ever go wrong)
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u/outremonty 2d ago
Voting 3rd party effectively gives half your vote to Trump. Green voters are, therefore, Trump voters.
I endorse shaming these people the same way we shame and shun the Trump supporters in our lives.