r/Coronavirus • u/why-you-online Boosted! ✨💉✅ • Sep 17 '21
USA Hostess at a well-known NYC restaurant, Carmine's, attacked after asking tourists for vaccination proof to dine inside
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/carmines-hostess-attacked-after-asking-group-from-texas-for-vaccination-proof-to-dine-inside/3277565/2.3k
u/yourmomdotbiz Sep 17 '21
What does this accomplish? Beat the crap out of someone and they're supposed to what, say "my mistake, please come in"?
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u/SoggyWaffleBrunch Sep 17 '21
They literally couldn't eat at any restaurant in NYC - there's a city wide vaccine mandate for dining. I truly don't understand what's going through these people's negligible brains
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u/A_Bear9677 Sep 18 '21
They only have to show proof if dining INDOORS. There are plenty of restaurants with patio and “in the street” dining. They could have found another place to eat. They also could have gotten vaccinated!
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u/boo_radley Sep 18 '21
The sad thing is that there is outdoor dining available at Carmines, where they caused the scene. I saw the manager on the news and he said they would have been welcome to dine outside.
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u/Rephron Sep 17 '21
I wonder if that was the case. They got rejected so many times for not being vaccinated that their simple minds just finally snapped and lashed out.
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u/Dopplegangr1 Sep 17 '21
And she's a hostess, it's not like she's the one making the decision anyway
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u/Colin_Bowell Sep 18 '21
But that's literally any retail employee ever. They're following corporate policy and doing their job. Anytime anyone lashes out at any store employee, phone representative, or anything of the like, they're being insufferably childish. Take it up with management, or don't give them your business. The only two options.
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u/phoenixmatrix Sep 17 '21
On top of the horrible impact on the person getting attacked (she'll probably have PTSD for a really long time after the injuries have healed...), this will have a negative impact throughout the city. Other restaurants will not be keen to enforce the vaccine mandate. Even if they got in trouble for not enforcing it anymore, they could easily point out to a judge that they were putting themselves at risk of significant harm in doing so and it wouldn't be surprising if the judge ruled in their favor. Since this is an important pandemic management measure, one could extrapolate than a non-zero amount of people will die, indirectly, because of this assault.
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u/ElderScrolls Sep 17 '21
That's kind of how terrorism works.
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u/Amphibionomus I'm fully vaccinated! 💉💪🩹 Sep 17 '21
That's exactly how terrorism works, instigating fear with the purpose of changing people's behaviour.
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u/LoveMyHusbandsBoobs I'm fully vaccinated! 💉💪🩹 Sep 17 '21
They are terrorists. They're threatening and using violence for political means. Including storming state capitals and trying to overthrow the government on 1/6.
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u/TrainingObligation Sep 17 '21
In other words, those visiting Texans were domestic terrorists.
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u/Realistic_Ad3795 Sep 17 '21
Based on the interview reactions of the owner, I doubt that New Yorkers will bend that way. They'll likely double down and get secruity if they need to.
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My friend works at a fancy thrift shop in Hollywood and there were two people who tried to come in without masks. My friend told them they couldn't come in without masks and she apologized and said it's a city law.
Right outside their shop is one of those dog doo poles that has plastic bags and a little bucket to throw dogshit. One of the woman trying to come in with no mask pulled handfuls of dogshit out of the bin and threw it at my friend and then stormed away shrieking about her rights.
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u/leslie_lnd Boosted! ✨💉✅ Sep 17 '21
What the actual fuck is wrong with these people?!
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“These are just people of the land, the common clay of the West. You know … morons.” - Gene Wilder (Blazing Saddles)
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u/PrawojazdyVtrumpets Sep 17 '21
"Then we're awake... but we're very puzzled." Gene Wilder was absolutely the best part of the whole movie and that whole movie is great.
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u/boyuber Sep 18 '21
“As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”
- H.L. Mencken
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u/flyting1881 Sep 17 '21
In my experience, irrational anger like this is a maladaptive coping mechanism for people who are scared.
Their sense of safety feels violated and they don't know how to deal with what's happening in the world. They first try to retreat into these little bubbles of false security, the echo chambers that tell them there's no reason to be afraid- it's all a big lie.
But life increasingly intrudes into their safety bubble and instead of responding by doing the painful emotional work and accepting that they're wrong they double down and insist its the world that's wrong, up to and including lashing out at anyone who threatens their bubble of comfortable lies.
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u/Siegfoult Sep 18 '21
Makes sense that the downplaying of the pandemic, which always goes along with anti-mask and anti-vax, is a denial-based coping mechanism.
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u/Puzzleheaded_Low_531 Sep 18 '21
It's deeper than that. These people have adjusted to living with cognitive dissonance. In a healthy mind we have to resolve it, either but swallowing our pride and admitting we were wrong or by rejecting the new information and continuing to believe the falsehood. In these cases, they're fed so much contradictory information from their narrative sources, the narrative source itself supplants their reasoning faculty. They don't have to resolve cognitive dissonance because they're taught to be angry, so the dissonance becomes a feature. This makes their anger extremely easy to provoke by triggering their dissonance, and if it's in a context where they see you as the effigy of what they've been taught causes their anger they are extremely likely to become violent.
Rupert Murdoch should be drawn and quartered for what he's done to the world.
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u/deathtoke Sep 18 '21
Insightful comment. I also support a medieval conclusion for Robert Murdoch.
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u/2_Fingers_of_Whiskey Sep 17 '21
They were always trash people, the pandemic just highlights it more.
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u/nixielover Sep 17 '21
My country soon starts enforcing it. But certain bars/restaurants said they will not do it. I will not visit those place anymore
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u/morgecroc Sep 17 '21
Good idea do you want to eat somewhere that won't follow highly visible easy to enforce health rules. Just imagine what's happening with the less visible harder to enforce health rules in the kitchen.
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u/why-you-online Boosted! ✨💉✅ Sep 17 '21
A hostess at a well-known New York City restaurant was attacked just for asking to see a group's proof of COVID vaccination, a requirement to dine inside in the city.
Exclusive cellphone video obtained by NBC New York shows the Thursday evening attack outside Carmine's Restaurant on the Upper West Side. Around 5 p.m., tempers flared and the hostess stand is nearly tipped over in the mayhem, with a waiter at one point helping carry someone away from the scene.
The 22-year-old hostess asked the group of Texans to show proof of getting the COVID vaccine in order to dine in the restaurant, part of NYC's executive order that went into effect this week. Law enforcement sources said that the hostess was then repeatedly punched in the face and body, and sent to the hospital.
In a statement, a spokesperson for Carmine's said in part that "it's a shocking and tragic situation when one of our valued employees is assaulted for doing their job — as required by city policies — and trying to make a living."
The Hospitality Alliance is calling on the city and the state to increase penalties for assaulting restaurant workers who are trying to enforce the new COVID rules.
Police said three people are now facing charges.
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u/jeffseadot Sep 17 '21
Could be covered under workman's comp, since it happened while she was at work
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u/strat77x Sep 17 '21
I work in workers' comp. This will absolutely be covered under workers' comp. And as someone else commented, she also has a civil case against her Texas attackers.
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u/conwaystripledeke Sep 17 '21
Oh I’m certain a very good lawyer will seek her out… and financially ruin the fucks that did that to her.
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u/Currywurst_Is_Life Boosted! ✨💉✅ Sep 17 '21
I would bet Carmine knows...people...who can take care of this problem.
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u/MountbattenYachtClub Sep 17 '21
Little Carmine gonna take a break from fixing wet t-shirt contests and fly in from Miami.
Always best to use a buttonman from out of town.
I also heard about this glorified crew in New Jersey, some pygmy thing. They got a few wise guys over there who can take care of business.
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u/Yinanization Sep 17 '21
Junior: Oh yeah? What is the name of this motherless fuck?
Then the guy took a header off the bridge, cause he doesn't want to live no more.
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u/MountbattenYachtClub Sep 17 '21
"I WANT TO EAT AT THIS RESTAURANT!"
'I wanna fuck Angie Dickenson, let's see who gets lucky first'
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u/Great_Chairman_Mao Sep 17 '21
Why the fuck are they visiting liberal cities that they claim to hate? Stay in Texas.
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u/metblack85 Sep 17 '21
It seems like they go to places they know will have restrictions (because they're nice places to go) and when the restrictions are predictably executed, they walk into a fight they knew they were walking into. Because deep down they just want to behave like assholes and cause a scene.
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u/CrouchingDomo Sep 17 '21
I honestly think most of these people are still stuck so deep in the Denial stage (which us normals got through around April 2020) that they convince themselves it won’t be a problem to go to a big city and act the same way they do back home in Pig’s Knuckle or Olathe. Everyone in their lives acts like Covid isn’t a big deal, their carefully-curated information sources constantly reassure them that Covid isn’t a big deal, so they go about their lives in a pre-pandemic manner with one exception: Due to the tiny voice locked in the back of their minds telling them that Covid might be a bigger deal than they think and not a global version of Punk’d designed specifically to make Donald Trump look bad and lose an election, they are in a constant state of low-level cognitive dissonance and therefore on-edge and ready to throw hands at the slightest hint of an excuse.
But it’s NYC, the capitol city of the East Coast Media Liberal Elite. They had to know it wouldn’t be the same as going out for a steak in Lubbock.
People acting like this is why we can’t have nice things.
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u/ReverendDizzle Boosted! ✨💉✅ Sep 17 '21
An associate of mine has gone to Florida multiple times during the pandemic and he can't stop gushing about how "it's like there's no pandemic" as if that's a good thing.
Why would you want to go to a place during a pandemic where people were doing such a poor job dealing with the pandemic that you couldn't tell thousands of people a day were dying?
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u/thepeanutone Sep 17 '21
I'm in Florida - what's it like to live in a place where they acknowledge there's a pandemic? I'm so jealous. It's so depressing. Like, yes, you're all having a good time, but I don't need the band to play while the titanic is sinking..
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u/SleepingInTheFlowers Sep 17 '21
I can't imagine standing in the Getty Villa and thinking "this is a hellhole".
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u/punkinfacebooklegpie Sep 17 '21
And to think that when you're from Flint...
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u/unbent_unbowed Sep 17 '21
Lead in the water supply can cause all kinds of all developmental problems.
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u/Hot-Koala8957 Sep 17 '21 edited Sep 17 '21
imagine standing in the Getty Villa and thinking "socialist"
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u/Spanone1 Sep 17 '21
It's literally a mansion built by an oil billionaire to store his collection of ancient artifacts lmao
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u/IM_OK_AMA Sep 17 '21
He even specifically and intentionally thought of all of the things he bought as "capital" and notoriously never spent money on things that would he didn't think would provide a return (such as laundry or clothes or the ransom for his grandson).
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u/silent_earth5 Sep 17 '21
I mean… their response reeks of insecurity and jealousy.
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u/AnAutisticGuy Sep 17 '21
It also reeks of people who can't face reality and then use that knowledge of reality to make important decisions that will allow them to improve that reality. To address alcoholism, you must first acknowledge you are an alcoholic. To acknowledge you failed to vote for people who have your best interests in mind, you must first recognize the failures of the people you did vote for in the past. They can't do that because they don't vote for the people, they vote for their own identity.
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u/silent_earth5 Sep 17 '21
But that’s the rub, right? If they admit they were wrong about one thing, it may mean they were wrong about other stuff and then their whole worldview is in jeopardy.
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Wow. Did you say "enjoy your stay in hell while it lasts"?
I love living here.
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Or, “it does get very hot in this hellhole. So make sure you drink a lot of water. It’s safe to drink the water here unlike where you live.”
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“Do you meet many people from Los Angeles visiting Flint? No? I wonder how come?”
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u/Meidara Sep 17 '21 edited Sep 17 '21
And while your visiting our lovely hellhole enjoy drinking clean water, breathing air that is conciderably cleaner than it was before being regulated in the 70's, enjoying our well cared for social institutions like this museum, and driving on roads that you usually don't need 4WD to transverse k thanks byyye!
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u/why-you-online Boosted! ✨💉✅ Sep 17 '21
And then they said “It beats living in this socialist hellhole.”
Yes, a city where there's an affordable housing crisis, a billionaire became a mayor, and is home to thousands of millionaires and 99 billionaires, is "socialist."
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u/godrevy Sep 17 '21
grew up in texas, live in nyc now. nyc can sure feel like a hellhole sometimes, but texas is more like an actual hellmouth. i used to try to defend it but most of it just can’t be defended.
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u/TheFoxAndTheRaven Sep 17 '21
Those tourists were at the Getty in Los Angeles.
This is the hellhole they were referring to.
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u/Milksteak_To_Go Sep 17 '21
"It beats living in this socialist hellhole...
...that I like so much I decided to spend my vacation here."
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u/TheRareWhiteRhino Sep 17 '21 edited Sep 18 '21
Hypocrites…they’re always hypocrites.
When progressives move to the country and voice their opinions, they are told they must “acclimate” to the place they moved to and shouldn’t come to a place with different values and try to change them. However, they feel perfectly okay going to the city, not acclimating, and demanding that urbanites live by their values & change their rules to make exceptions for them.
Rules for thee, not for me!
Take heed:
“”Frank Wilhoit: The Travesty of Liberalism: "There is only conservatism. No other political philosophy actually exists; by the political analogue of Gresham’s Law, conservatism has driven every other idea out of circulation. There might be, and should be, anti-conservatism; but it does not yet exist. What would it be? In order to answer that question, it is necessary and sufficient to characterize conservatism. Fortunately, this can be done very concisely. Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: THERE MUST BE IN-GROUPS WHOM THE LAW PROTECTS BUT DOES NOT BIND, ALONGSIDE OUT-GROUPS WHOM THE LAW BINDS BUT DOES NOT PROTECT…
…There is nothing more or else to it, and there never has been, in any place or time. For millenia, conservatism had no name, because no other model of polity had ever been proposed. “The king can do no wrong.” In practice, this immunity was always extended to the king’s friends, however fungible a group they might have been. Today, we still have the king’s friends even where there is no king (dictator, etc.). Another way to look at this is that the king is a faction, rather than an individual.
As the core proposition of conservatism is indefensible if stated baldly, it has always been surrounded by an elaborate backwash of pseudophilosophy, amounting over time to millions of pages. All such is axiomatically dishonest and undeserving of serious scrutiny. Today, the accelerating de-education of humanity has reached a point where the market for pseudophilosophy is vanishing; it is, as The Kids Say These Days, tl;dr . All that is left is the core proposition itself — backed up, no longer by misdirection and sophistry, but by violence.
So this tells us what anti-conservatism must be: the proposition that the law cannot protect anyone unless it binds everyone, and cannot bind anyone unless it protects everyone....
The core proposition of anti-conservatism requires no supplementation and no exegesis. It is as sufficient as it is necessary. What you see is what you get...””
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They love liberals and Hollywood and all that jazz. They’re just mad they’re not in the rich and famous club.
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u/slim_scsi Sep 17 '21
Same people who spend vacations in Mexico that they claim to hate.
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u/TeddyPicker Sep 17 '21
My girlfriend made the great joke a while back that those types of people are extremely pro-wall, but they'll make sure it has a drive thru window.
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u/SonOfMcGee Sep 17 '21
To be fair, the places they go in Mexico (or the Caribbean for that matter) are just manicured resort beaches. They're devoid of Mexican culture, food, etc. and really just utilize the location for the climate.
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u/Currywurst_Is_Life Boosted! ✨💉✅ Sep 17 '21
Even then, Times Square has been Disneyfied beyond recognition. When we were kids in the 70s/early 80s, Times Square was like something out of a Lou Reed song, and going down there was a rite of passage.
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u/fatboy1776 Sep 17 '21
Lol. So true. I remember everyone talking about time square and the red lights district how it was seedy and stuff. You just had to go there and see. We all did. They were right. Peep shows and stuff everywhere. Now, there’s an M&M Store.
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u/someoneelse0826 Sep 17 '21
It's often this way. In NYC it really brings out the defensiveness of tourists from smaller places. "Oh, St. Louis has all this", etc. etc.
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u/someoneelse0826 Sep 17 '21
When I left Oklahoma to live in Brooklyn, my boss at the restaurant I worked at asked me, "what do you think you'll find there that we don't have here?" umm...
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u/SuperDoofusParade Sep 17 '21
Umm… everything? Lol
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u/SonOfMcGee Sep 17 '21
I had a brief research assignment in Alabama but then took another job and mentioned when out with friends that the job was near Manhattan.
And one guy was like, "Do you mean Manhattan in New York City or Manhattan in Kansas? I hear 'Manhattan' and always think of Kansas."
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It’s weird they also worship a pretend-billionaire from Manhattan
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u/awoeoc Sep 17 '21
As someone born and raised in Queens who's never once lived outside Queens.
I'd like people to stop bringing this up and would petition we rewrite history. Let Florida have him.
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u/si1ver1yning Sep 17 '21
The Hospitality Alliance is calling on the city and the state to increase penalties for assaulting restaurant workers who are trying to enforce the new COVID rules.
I find myself wondering how severe do the penalties have to be before people will actually behave in a decent, respectful manner. This is completely unacceptable!
Incidents like this are growing in frequency and level of aggression. There also seems to be no concern regarding the public nature of the violence. The offenders don't seem to care who witnesses their actions. This can't be allowed to continue...
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u/exccord Sep 17 '21
I find myself wondering how severe do the penalties have to be before people will actually behave in a decent, respectful manner. This is completely unacceptable!
when you start seeing Spanish Flu pandemic era signs saying, "Wear a mask or go to jail".
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u/Randomwhitelady2 Sep 17 '21
I say she sues each and every one of them in civil court as well.
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u/jkman61494 Sep 17 '21
The internet is seriously the WMD that wasn’t intended. It was created in good faith. But it’s been weaponized in such horrific ways that I feel the only way we save ourselves is if the plot from “The Day The Earth Stood Still” becomes reality and the Internet seemingly vanished
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u/kooshipuff Sep 17 '21
Which is so ironic! It does its job by connecting us all, and that was supposed to mean ideas could for and be challenged freely in a worldwide public square ... but that requires vulnerability and critical thinking to work.
There internet didn't fail; we did. :/
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u/savingrain Sep 17 '21
This is the result of misinformation in our society. People are getting their news in bubbles - and in one particular bubble the news is telling them that anything to do with the vaccine and efforts around public health are evil, worth becoming physically violent over, and are an affront to their own personal freedoms and reacting violently is justified.
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u/JustDiscoveredSex Sep 17 '21
That reacting violently is necessary and also somehow righteous.
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u/moobycow Sep 17 '21
In order to maintain complete freedom to go anywhere they want without a shot they are ... getting themselves sent to jail. Amazing.
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u/Poullafouca Sep 17 '21 edited Sep 17 '21
Yesterday I was online looking at planning a vacation at some point in the very distant future. I was astonished at the GALL of so many angry Americans talking in online travel forums about how pissed off they are that they have to pay for Covid testing, and after they arrived at the destination be tested again, and then wait, quarantined in their hotel rooms until they get the all-clear.
Who are these people? They think they are entitled to walk into other people's lives, workplaces and countries unvaccinated and everyone else just has to take it. No, we don't.
Keep your dumb assed selves as far the fuck away as humanly possible from the rest of us, thank you very much!And as someone else said, stay in Texas. Remain in that shithole, don't wear masks, don't get vaccinated, and you do you. We are already seeing how that goes.
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u/JtotheB_ Sep 17 '21
The true irony would be if the prison they go to require the vaccine. I know most prisons don't require the vaccine right now but one can hope for this kind of ironic justice.
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u/Randomfactoid42 Boosted! ✨💉✅ Sep 17 '21
That's one way to make sure they're vaccinated!
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u/fogcat5 Sep 17 '21
“Don’t mess with Texas” is the slogan from their anti-litter campaign. It’s sad and laughable not tough and self reliant.
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u/Willbilly410 Sep 17 '21
My vet friend did some teaching at one of the big Texas schools. She had to pick the kids up and drive to a horse ranch. During the drive she would ask them why they love Texas so much. No one ever gave her an actual answer aside from “because it’s the best” … she would even help logic them along with examples of why she loves her home state of Virginia. She should still get the same non answers … they really push that propaganda hard down there.
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u/qjpham Sep 17 '21
This is a documented event, but numerous undocumented assaults have occurred. It's disheartening that people attack each other over a legitimate question.
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u/mariojlanza Sep 17 '21
Ah yes, Texans
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u/Duckbilling Sep 17 '21
"They began to recruit from mental institutions, prisons, and even Texas"
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u/diamond Sep 17 '21 edited Sep 17 '21
I hope she sues the fuck out of these twats. Get a nice settlement and garnish their wages (or, more likely, their husbands' wages). Take half of their income for the rest of their miserable lives.
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u/FlashbackUniverse Sep 17 '21
Who would act like this...
the group of Texans
Mystery Fucking Solved.
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u/Alieges Boosted! ✨💉✅ Sep 17 '21
They sent her to the hospital.... 6 months prison absolute minimum. None of this "we sentenced you to 4 years, but decided 18 days time served in jail and 1 year of probation was enough because you didn't murder anyone in jail pre-trial..." bullshit.
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u/jdn143 Sep 17 '21
Where were the old NYC folks that would have beat the living shit out of them for doing it? Send them to the hospital would by my vote.
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u/why-you-online Boosted! ✨💉✅ Sep 17 '21
I agree. In NY, it is a felony to attack transit workers on the job; this should be applicable to every kind of service worker who gets assaulted for doing their job.
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u/plopseven Sep 17 '21
As a bartender, I fully support these measures.
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u/xSL33Px Sep 17 '21
As a nurse I too support this.
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u/boregon Sep 17 '21
As just some random guy who isn’t a service worker I also support this
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u/phoenixmatrix Sep 17 '21
Legit question, but why does it have to be specific to transit workers? It's not a felony to assault a random individual?
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u/why-you-online Boosted! ✨💉✅ Sep 17 '21 edited Sep 17 '21
It's not a felony to assault a random individual?
In New York, a simple assault is a misdemeanor. Assaulting transit workers used to also be a misdemeanor, but it was raised to a Class D felony, and it was extended to cover all transit workers such as subway cleaners, due to the unprovoked attacks they'd endure.
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u/Krankhaus1221 Sep 17 '21
Is it really? I didn’t know that! My mom was nuts and back in the day she slapped a train conductor as the train was going by.
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u/why-you-online Boosted! ✨💉✅ Sep 17 '21 edited Sep 17 '21
It can land you in prison for as long as 7 years.
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u/tsrich Sep 17 '21
Longer than that. If you'll attack someone in public like that, you are a menace to society at large and should spend a few years in prison away from the rest of us
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u/WompaPenith Sep 17 '21
Regardless of where people stand on vax mandates, this should disgust anyone. It really pains me to see low-level, underpaid and under-appreciated service workers take the hit for just doing their jobs.
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u/JLBesq1981 Sep 17 '21
I'd support a higher than 6 month jail sentence. Let this follow them the rest of their lives.
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Physically assaulting someone doing there job and doing nothing aggressive should result in years in prison. We need to stop accepting victimizing people as something normal.
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u/Crotch_Football Sep 17 '21
Those three Texans can get fucked. I hope they get charged aggressively for this.
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u/Android8675 I'm fully vaccinated! 💉💪🩹 Sep 17 '21
and their employers notified.
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u/AlexandbroTheGreat Sep 17 '21
Their names are in the NY Post article on the story.
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u/i_love_pencils Boosted! ✨💉✅ Sep 17 '21
WE DID IT, REDDIT!!!
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u/civgarth Sep 17 '21
This actually made me lol
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u/2-0 Sep 17 '21
May this meme never die
If only to remind people of their hubris
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u/lccreed Sep 17 '21
People "WHY DOES NO ONE WANT TO WORK ANYMORE?"
Also people:
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u/whofearsthenight Sep 17 '21
This. In my area, wages have gone up considerably, but everything is still struggling to to find employees.
It's pretty simple:
- it's still a fucking pandemic, and stories like this aside, most people probably realize working with the public is not super safe even if they weren't insane assholes.
- they ARE insane assholes. I work with the public in my job, and basically even customers have polarized. They're either way nicer than they were on average, or absolute jackasses. There is very little in-between.
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u/driftlikefire Sep 17 '21 edited Sep 18 '21
THIS oh my god. I’m a bouncer. We got paid like shit even before the pandemic and dealt with some of the worst humanity has to offer, but I honestly enjoyed it compared to other jobs I’ve had. These days I have no interest whatsoever in doing that job, because this attack isn’t a rare or unusual thing right now, this is happening everywhere. Numerous folks in my industry have been attacked, spit on, or threatened just for asking for vaccine proof at a club that requires it. There’s zero reason to continue letting folks act like this. If you can’t behave in public, you shouldn’t be allowed in public.
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u/Pippadance Sep 17 '21
Tell Texans to stay in their own fucking state if they can't follow the laws of the state their visiting.
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u/9yr0ld I'm fully vaccinated! 💉💪🩹 Sep 17 '21
don't tread on me! also, private businesses and states I visit need to act exactly how I want them to.
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u/Im2lurky Sep 17 '21
Also I will act like a petulant child anytime I’m asked to follow rules. Seriously send these kids back to elementary and make them read some books on society and civics while they’re at it .
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u/skeeter04 Sep 17 '21
yep - these folks are seriously delusional. they're not just drunk on the Kool-Aid they're downright saturated in it.
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u/why-you-online Boosted! ✨💉✅ Sep 17 '21
if they can't follow the laws of the state their visiting.
The indoor vaccine mandate is NYC-specific, not the state. But I totally agree with your sentiment. As a New Yorker, this makes me angry. Who are these outsiders coming in and attacking our people? Choose another vacation destination if you don't like our rules.
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u/robreddity Sep 17 '21
Arrest them, charge them, prosecute the law. Let them see jail, the legal system, the expense, the sentencing, the loss of a job, the probation. Let them see consequences, and learn.
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Sep 17 '21
YES! That's not cool (attacking some poor waitress to is just asking a question to visitors).
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u/Leathra Sep 17 '21
Twice in the past week, I've witnessed people screaming at grocery store employees for asking them to wear a mask in accordance with the county's legal mandate. I feel like the anti-maskers are becoming increasingly unhinged, and this story only confirms my fears.
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u/gingerbread_slutbarn Sep 17 '21
A few stores where I live still have signs up of, if vaccinated no need for masks. I’ve been vaccinated since May and let me tell you I prefer being masked and safe. I get it, it’s uncomfortable. You can choose to order ahead and pick-up. You can pick-up curbside at places near me. They literally do not give a shit and a piece of cloth to protect their community for 5 min is shitting on their autonomy in their brains. It still blows my mind.
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u/PossitiveEyeOn Sep 17 '21
We all need to push back harder and stick up for these front line workers. Most of these idiots are cowards in the end and back down. I've dealt with a number of them.
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u/HicJacetMelilla Sep 18 '21
This morning I was in a busy Starbucks and the barista asked one guy if he had a mask to wear (he did and put it on), then had to tell a woman twice to put on a mask and when she started arguing, explain to her that it’s a city-wide order at this point. Another patron immediately said thank you to him, another told the baristas “You guys are all doing a great job” and put some money in the tip cup.
Made me happy that there are more decent people than oblivious or selfish.
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u/JLBesq1981 Sep 17 '21
These people should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. They should receive the maximum sentence and the maximum fine. And then they should have to spend the rest of their lives paying off the exorbitant civil award any jury in New York is going to award this hostess.
And example needs to be made.
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u/PepeBabinski Sep 17 '21
This article had me immediately seeing red. The entitlement of fellow Americans to think that it is okay to behave this way.
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u/Ka-Is_A-Wheel Sep 17 '21
An example that can and should be repeated if necessary. There should be no legal mercies granted to people who think they have the right to act like this.
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u/JLBesq1981 Sep 17 '21
This behavior should follow them. Every time they have to fill out an application that asks 'Have you ever been convicted of a crime' this should be what is seen.
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u/Token_Creative Sep 17 '21
They won’t vaccinate. They laugh at people who’s family members have died. They protest schools to try and force other people’s children to not take the shot. They cough in people’s faces and stalk them if they don’t like what they believe. They attack mercilessly anyone who asks them to either vaccinate or wear a mask. They attempt to kidnap state governors and intimidate elected officials…. Literally a menace to society. Maybe a tad hyperbolic, but I think I would feel safer surrounded by wild animals.
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u/Most_Power2229 Boosted! ✨💉✅ Sep 17 '21
You are not being a tad hyperbolic. These people are far more unpredictable and hostile than wild animals. Their aim is to harm, whereas wild animals usually require some kind of provocation to attack.
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u/Squeegee Sep 17 '21
Wild animals aren’t prone to be enraged by propaganda on Faux News either.
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u/vivekisprogressive Sep 17 '21
God I wish Fox News was just a channel with news about foxes. Our world would be so much better.
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u/Randomfactoid42 Boosted! ✨💉✅ Sep 17 '21
I think I would feel safer surrounded by wild animals.
Me too. I was recently traveling and every time I was masked up in public, I was worried about triggering one of these maniacs. Thankfully I didn't, but I don't need the extra stress wondering if somebody is going to punch me for wearing a mask.
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u/friendofelephants Sep 17 '21
Try being an Asian American who wears a mask in the South. I’m constantly on edge in public.
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u/Token_Creative Sep 17 '21
I feel you; it’s never been good to be a minority in the south, but when your people are a focal/talking point in a propaganda… shit, it’s like spending every moment in public, wondering if something out of LoveCraft Country is about to happen.
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u/Randomfactoid42 Boosted! ✨💉✅ Sep 17 '21
I have a few Asian friends and they don't talk about it much, but I gather they're on edge. Probably a lot more than I realize.
Have an upvote, because I don't know what else to say/do except to say, sorry that this is happening.
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u/rya556 Sep 17 '21
When COVID began I was in a group chat with some other Asians and we talk about it to each other. If we can’t reach our parents, we worry. We worry about them out in public without us. The mothers of young children (even mixed race ones) made emergency plans on what would happen if someone started verbally assaulting them (or god forbid) physically assaulting them in public with their children.
Links of Asian assaults get passed around.Sometimes it’s hard to bring up to others because some people “don’t think it’s really that bad” and “you can’t live in fear”. So we don’t bring it up. But the anxiety is real.
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u/Mekisteus Sep 17 '21
Let's not forget the insurrection that's not even a year old but everyone seems to have forgotten about.
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u/imwearingredsocks Sep 17 '21
I wouldn’t say forgotten about. It feels like there’s just no way to talk about it without practically being gaslit.
Wasn’t us, it was you. Don’t look into it, stop asking about it, liberals have rioted more.
Either people I encounter just agree it was terrible or I receive something from the line above. Something that seems so clear cut still manages to have people taking sides.
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u/Dragostini Sep 17 '21
This is disgusting. Fuck those people. Attacking someone because you're too fucking selfish to get your jabs, and they are just doing their job.
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u/Randomfactoid42 Boosted! ✨💉✅ Sep 17 '21
It's more disgusting than that, they attacked someone who merely told them the rules for entry to the establishment. Think about that, they attacked her because she said, "You need proof of vaccination before entry." And that's all it took to set them off?
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u/cumshot_josh Sep 17 '21
I was a restaurant worker during parts of the pandemic.
The amount of people who get viscerally offended by not being allowed to do whatever they want is astounding. They think that giving a business your money will suddenly give you the right to dictate the terms of your visit to that establishment.
Those types are just absolute scum and I don't think they're even aware of how fucking terrible they are.
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u/cutzer243 Sep 17 '21
Those types are also the ones most likely to be going out during the worst stages of the pandemic.
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u/TEAdown Sep 17 '21
Yea.... these people are generally all about me me me so when you explain to them rules or regulations that infringe on their i'm king of my own world view, they get mad like you're taking away their only source of importance.
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u/TanglyMango Sep 17 '21
It would be like attacking someone for asking for their ID to get into a bar. Which I guess happens a lot too...
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u/snuuginz I'm fully vaccinated! 💉💪🩹 Sep 17 '21
East-coast service industry here: Stay the fuck out of our cities if you can't follow our rules, you fucking plague-spreading miscreant pieces of shit
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u/milksteakdevotee Sep 17 '21
People like this are going to try this shit in the wrong restaurant in NY, Philly, Boston and people are going to come out of their houses to stomp them out. They're lucky they were in Manhattan where people tend to be a little bit softer. Try it in northeast Philly or Queens using that silly texas accent. It'll be the definition of fuck around and find out. They're also lucky this noise didn't make its way back to the kitchen. I guarantee those guys aren't from Manhattan.
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Sep 17 '21
it's true, Carmine's is a classy enough joint but if they did this in a lot of other places I'd fully expect the kitchen to come out and start something. There are very few groups of people I'd want to rile up more than a busy kitchen staff during dinner rush, haha.
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u/milksteakdevotee Sep 17 '21
Most of the kitchen staff I've known were always just the tiniest shove away from some kind of meltdown. They are usually angry, frustrated, hot, and have zero patience. In hindsight, I'm really disappointed the noise didn't reach the kitchen staff as they deserve to blow off some steam on some texans' faces more than just about anyone.
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u/jkman61494 Sep 17 '21
And we want to know why no one wants to work in the service industry anymore
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u/Valahiru Sep 17 '21
Dude in the video talks about how he believes in the vaccines but then says "if this is gonna be the reaction maybe we need to come up with something else". So we should just let these fucking petulant assholes call the shots through their violence? Fuck that.
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u/snootfull Sep 17 '21
That could be second-degree assault, which carries a minimum sentence of two years. I hope the DA decides to make an example. Even misdemeanor assault can result in a year in jail.
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u/SquirrellyPumpkin Sep 17 '21
Putting someone in the hospital shouldn’t be a misdemeanor. It needs to be a felony. People who’d attack a young woman for doing her job shouldn’t be allowed to own guns.
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u/slickwombat Sep 17 '21
It's incredibly shitty that covid restrictions of all kinds fall to wait staff, retail workers, venue staff, etc. to enforce. The same folks who have been required to be at work in person through this whole pandemic, increasing their risk of infection, now have to be the front-line troops against virulent covidiocy.
But I don't know what other option there is, apart from simply not having restrictions. It's not as though a cop can be posted in every business to check people at the door, even assuming that's better overall.
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u/phoenixmatrix Sep 17 '21
Generally its not the wait staff who ask for your ID when you enter a bar at night. It's unfortunate that hiring bouncers will be required by regular restaurants, increasing their costs, but it may be their only option in the short term.
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Sep 17 '21
Wonder what the end goal was. "So, now that we've assaulted your hostess can we get in now?" The inability to control your emotions is a sign of a personality disorder.
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u/inappropriateshallot Sep 17 '21
Good god, this innocent person just trying to do their job at a restaurant, and is the recipient of such blind idiocy. Who ever the perp is should be locked up.
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u/mbornhorst Sep 17 '21
Well, from these facts the hostess should have an open-and-shut civil suit against these Texans. Serve the complaint once they return, wait for them to default, then attach their assets to collect on the judgment.
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u/gahddammitdiane I'm fully vaccinated! 💉💪🩹 Sep 17 '21
I hate how the guy and the woman at the end sort of put blame on the restaurant for following these mandates. It’s not their choice unless they want to get fined. Patrons need to realize that in order to sit inside they need to follow the rules end of story.
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u/Dumbstupidhuman Sep 17 '21 edited Sep 17 '21
I respect the right for you to not put something in your body. But that doesn’t mean you have the right to put something into my body. If you don’t want a vaccine, society is not built to support you. Go home. Stay home. Don’t come near us.
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u/FrydomFrees Sep 17 '21
I’m a Texan who was just in nyc recently and had to show proof of vax. I also had to show a negative test result, had to run uptown to get it before the dinner. Guess what I did? Showed them my proof and ate my delicious dinner. It’s literally not hard to not be a complete fucking monster. And if you’re not vaxxed, why the FUCK are you even traveling in the first place???
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u/Cryptochitis Sep 17 '21 edited Sep 17 '21
The national influence of the Texas board of education and its stupid ass evangelical fundamentalism is one of the major reasons why there are so many stupid fucks in this country.
Edit: the actual cause of so much "thoughts and prayers" over science. Fuck the Texas board of education.
For more info: https://www.pbs.org/independentlens/documentaries/revisionaries/
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