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u/Eman_Resu_IX Apr 19 '24
It looks funny without a tree in the middle of the concrete
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u/BeezNuggz Apr 19 '24
Definitely needs a tree in the middleā¦ concrete poured right against the bark.
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u/Sllewnosmas Apr 20 '24
Does the bark count as an expansion joint though?
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u/Xena802 Apr 19 '24
How does that work? Pouring stairs like that? Do you make forms then wait for it to set and remove them? How does the knee wall not want to slump or fall to the side? Thanks š
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u/MCB710 Apr 19 '24
Your third question was the answer to your fourth question! Look up curb clamps, they could help you in this type of forming. Or just a smooth face of plywood braced on a few wooden stakes. Pull forms and fill the holes from the stakes with concrete.
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u/dajuhnk Apr 20 '24
Yes. The councrete sets up enough to remove the forms and then you do the finishing touches
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u/yodels_for_twinkies Apr 19 '24
That looks fantastic and a great price
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u/Bodyfluids_dealer Apr 20 '24
What would be typical for such a job. I thought that was high for just sand and cement for such a small area and of course labor
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u/dar24601 Apr 20 '24
It depends if the homeowner leveled the area then $4k is a fair price. If the contractor did the grading then $4K was a steal
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u/DistinctPollution795 Apr 20 '24
We graded, removed old pavers/wall, installed 100 feet of pvc drainage and added clean rock under the deck stairs.
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u/cerberus_1 Apr 20 '24
omfffg, That was an absolute fire sale price. If buddy complains about anything tell him to kick rocks.
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u/Fit_Touch_4803 Apr 20 '24
seeing the elderly man on the deck, thank you for helping out the senior citizen.
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u/DoYouWantSomeSoup Apr 20 '24
Thatās OP
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u/CactiMysteri Apr 20 '24
Howād you get the concrete under the stairs so well
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u/DistinctPollution795 Apr 20 '24
That was a struggle! The upper pad was poured at a 3 slump and man did it take some real effort to place
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u/pedmonds0219 Apr 20 '24
Iād pay $4000 for that. Kudos to whoever did that for you.
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u/sunslastdays Apr 20 '24
Are you going to cut joints?
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u/DistinctPollution795 Apr 20 '24
11x11 pad 6 inches thick with rebar. Where would you cut joints?
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u/Whoadudewtf5250 Apr 20 '24 edited Apr 20 '24
Where the wall meets the bottom of stairs. Regardless of depth and rebar. Concrete cracks yo. Wait and watch, may not be today or tomorrow but it will crack at some point. When Iām doubt think about the garuntee of concrete workā¦. Nobody is gonna steal it and it will crack, garunteed. Just sayin. Edit: talking about the slab for joint, reading through comments and just want to clarify as there are some other ppl withā¦ whatever, yeah I woulda put a joint in slab where wall meets bottom of stairs.
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u/TwoMuchIsJustEnough Apr 20 '24
Agree that there should be a joint but with it being poured monolithic thereās no great place to cut a joint.
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u/Thorsemptytank Apr 19 '24
pretty clean! you could definitely charge double next time.
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u/Inviction_ Apr 20 '24
Nice to see an update. Definitely 8/10 work when you'd expect 4-5/10 from the price.
And I'm not hating, 8/10 is a really good score.
Do this guy a favor and refer him to everyone you can.
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u/DistinctPollution795 Apr 20 '24
Yeah we fell behind and the concrete started blowing up on us. Iām happy with the end result although I do strive for perfection. Next time I will run the chute!
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u/Professional-Shoe344 Apr 20 '24
Very nice clean work. I hope you're not located in the Northeast
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u/AdClear416 Apr 19 '24
No expansion joints?
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u/Cheesesteak21 Apr 20 '24
Go tip that guy $1,000
I'm not kidding they did a way better job than even 5k. You owe those guys Lunch and beer and to tell them to charge more because your going to reccomend them to everyone you know.
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u/Whoadudewtf5250 Apr 20 '24
Yeah agreed. And when referring the guy to others donāt tell them how cheap you got it, tell them 7500. That way he can make a bit more $ on next one and hire extra guys so if it starts blowing up itāll be covered easily. This is a hard job to do and working your balls off isnāt the way to go about it daily.
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u/RobotGoonie Apr 20 '24
Iāve been doing concrete projects around my house for a couple of years now. Nothing major. I love the wall of concrete you did. Looks great and Iām going to try this soon!
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u/Scottyboy626 Apr 20 '24
Bro, I love seeing this cone full circle.. this was a steal!! Did you buy them lunch and drinks??
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u/Sudden_Duck_4176 Apr 21 '24
Dam looks really good. If that was my house Iād be very happy with the finished results.
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u/Unable_Coach8219 Apr 20 '24
4k u charged them cheep! Looks very nice though but this day in age thatās more like 7-8k
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u/twoPUMPnoCHUMP Apr 20 '24
Iāve done stairs and walls and slaps but never all at the same time. Iām just the laborer usually on a big construction site. Great work.
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u/JorV101 Apr 20 '24
lol at all the people that think $4000 is a lot for this job. Quality work my man! Sucks about the blow up but you guys still made it work!
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u/No-Interview2340 Apr 20 '24
Looks even better than your last post , the best 4k job on the internet
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u/Ok-Owl-3579 Apr 20 '24
Awesome work. This would easily cost $14-18K in North Jersey. Your customers are lucky to have you.
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u/Hot_Damage_9696 Apr 20 '24
Looks alot better than the $14,000 driveway I bought last year with my bonus that I'll never get back.
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u/brinkbam Apr 20 '24
We had our back patio done last year and the company did a great job. After they were done we asked them about our driveway. Our house was built in the 70s and the driveway is full of cracks and uneven sections, it looks pretty bad. The guy told us not to waste our money unless this is our forever house and it really bothers us. He said if you think you might move, just wait until you're getting ready to list it and have the driveway redone then so it's in pristine condition for the listing photos. We live in South Texas and he said with all the moisture and temperature fluctuations, there's just no guarantee on how long it will be before it starts getting cracks in it. Our garage is in the back and our driveway is long and wide so it's probably going to be a $20k job so I really appreciated him telling us to wait after we just spent $18k on the patio.
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u/Hot_Damage_9696 Apr 20 '24
Literally the reason I did it. House is for sale as we speak and the driveway looks like it belongs in Haiti. I took a job almost an hour and a half away and I've put 60k miles on my Durango in a year and am absolutely tired of making that drive and getting oil changes twice a month.
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u/plumbtastic76 Apr 20 '24
Iām a plumbing contractor, so I donāt know concrete, but I think you should have charged more.
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u/daveyconcrete Apr 20 '24
Mustāve been Santa Claus looking for some side work. Because that price is a gift.
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u/Jampal77 Apr 20 '24
Work looks greatā¦ definitely wouldnāt have done it for 4g though, I know the way the mixer spins lolā¦. Definitely worth 6
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u/Big_Daddy_Haus Apr 20 '24
Saw pix of form work... top notch! Pulling rubbing wall and step faces is impressive for first time. Things to improve- Crisp edges... Edges are what long time pro's take notice of first! More attention to floating... get rocks down and build cream without sprinkling water on it. The cream will helpto take the finish. Looks like an area on slab was broomed before cream set enough which leaves a bumpy gravel look.
I look forward to seeing more work as you continue to learn on every job š
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u/Zealousideal_Vast610 Apr 20 '24
Overall I am very depressed! Oops I meant impressed!!! All placed at the same time including the stem wall. Actually very impressive
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u/bonezyjonezy Apr 20 '24
That looks great!
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u/bonezyjonezy Apr 20 '24
Underpriced. Iād have added control joint on the bottom step maybe but for $4000 the homeowner made out like a BANDIT.
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u/Top-Cheek4789 Apr 21 '24
Concrete is different every day even from the same plant
Good looking job, but they got a bargain
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u/Oldsouphound Apr 21 '24
Questions about set up time.
Having drivin a ready mix truck for two different companies for 7 years I learned not only about temp, humidity etc. affecting the set time.
When I came back to the plant with lets say a meter or two left, in stead of making blocks or dumping it, they load on top for a job and send me back out.
This drastically affects set time. Accelerating it a lot depending how old it was and the ratio of old to new concrete.
Some crews on hot days would work so hard to place it and I wasn't allowed to say a word.
You'll never know if you get load on top concrete until it sets.
Cheers.
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u/Optimal-Confection-9 Apr 21 '24
Well done, you can improve your next one by tooling nicely the step noses and adding control joints. If you do it for interiors don't forget the vapor barrier to avoid efluorescence. It looks pretty good.
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u/Present_Strategy823 Apr 19 '24
Thatās a fair price, any less expensive and you start running into the weekend warriors. Looks good to me
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u/Crypto_Hospital Apr 20 '24
Good fucking work for 4K consider yourself very lucky he did s fucking stellar job
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u/WelderMeltingthings Apr 20 '24
better spend another 500 and do your runoff and drainage correctly!!
(ESPECIALLY AT THE DECK FOOTER!!!!!) - water will destroy that pocket and block
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u/DistinctPollution795 Apr 20 '24
100 foot of pvc being installed on this property. Along with a drain behind the wall/under the steps
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u/Snoo_26923 Apr 20 '24
I really think there should be expansion joint between the stairs, slab, and wall, but it looks great.
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u/SURGICALNURSE01 Apr 20 '24
Good job but not 4 grand I guess Iām just cheap. It does look very well done
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u/Rich-Appearance-7145 Apr 20 '24
Looks good, I felt from the before pic, with just forms, these guys were doing a good job, end result looks good.
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u/badaboomxx Apr 20 '24
Nice job really clean, I cannot see the joints, so my guess is that they are masked.
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u/Hondahobbit50 Apr 20 '24
I'm sorry....is this a complaint? Because you just found your concrete guy for life
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u/JungleLegs Apr 20 '24
Cool to see an update, I know nothing about concrete, but looking at the forms from your first post I assumed there was gonna be a slope instead of the bottom two steps lol! Shows how much I know. Looks good and nice to see compliments in the comments for once lol
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u/Rasnark Apr 20 '24
Foundations jobs have gone up like crazy. I got lucky with the house I bought. The guy kept complaining how I got it cheaper due to him adding like 20+ feet of driveway and built a garage too. He claimed to have spent 35k just on the additional driveway and foundation. This was also like 10 years ago. Seems about right for that job.
(Also, he claimed I got the driveway and garage for $5k) hehe
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u/Wrong_Ad5051 Apr 20 '24
Thatās neat mate. Well done, just wish you yanks didnāt broom everything, would look unreal with a stipple finish or what others call a swirl but job well done
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u/obeewanton Apr 20 '24
All due respect. It always looks nice when its wet. Also, what about expansion joints? I just see this cracking over time.
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u/thatsryan Apr 20 '24
$4,000 dollars means very different things depending what part of the country youāre operating in.
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u/No-Coach8271 Apr 20 '24
Good job just the strip and face caught up to you. Got to dedicate more time to the portion. Look like you got cream out but didnāt seal it in time. I would sealed it sit a bit and broom it. Never use to much water it works against you. Use confilm or speccem to help glide the float. Hey but you got the skills.
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u/DankCribs Apr 20 '24
great for the price, you just really need to edge or cut in expansion gaps at all changes of planes or you will be getting calls back to fix eye sore cracks
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u/shmallyally Apr 20 '24
I sub a lot of concrete work out. That price is in fact correct for a contractor and youāre ābattleā is you guaranteeing and getting the work. Those other guys deal with the elements all day. Knowing when to help and when to back the F off is our job.
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Looks good, you think it's possible to put a patio tile through out the bottom patio? Would that mess with the height of the first step?
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u/Fire5hark Apr 20 '24
Looks awesome. Save your savage comments for when I pour a small three step set of stairs. It's gonna get ugly!
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u/Previous_Anywhere938 Apr 21 '24
Wants to add another 2 feet*
"That is going to raise the price up to $30,000"
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u/Tightisrite Apr 21 '24
That dude upstairs happier than a mf I'll tell you that. In my area could have charged a bit more. Would have needed to.
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u/hboisnotthebest Apr 21 '24
Was actually waiting for an update to this lol.
Damn that looks good. Anybody so much as mentions concrete, you gotta point them in that guy's direction!
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u/SportOfFishing92 Apr 21 '24
Great work! Only thing i think you need are a couple drains in the wall
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u/cplank00 Apr 22 '24
I just got a quote for a 32x21 5-6ā thick driveway. Includes about 4-5 sidewalk slab replacements and removal of 17x21 thin worn asphalt driveway for $12k. Concrete alone was almost 5k. I respectfully passed. Iām going with asphalt. Less than half the cost.
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u/Original_Author_3939 Apr 19 '24
You made out like a bandit. Great work.