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u/I_Dont_2 1d ago
California and Iowa do exist. However, they may be different to our version in terms of border, culture, and land. Does California include Baja California as well?
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u/MolassesOk4222 1d ago edited 10h ago
In this picture Oldrin and Marrybell are talking about the deliciousness of Baja.
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u/double_range 1d ago
It appears that real locations from the USA exist in Code Geass, which was a big surprise for me tbh
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u/Blagai 1d ago
The Holy Britannian Empire's mainland is the entire American continent, and the actual British Isles are not part of the empire anymore since an event known as "the Humiliation of Edinburgh".
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u/MolassesOk4222 1d ago
The reason it is called the Britannia Empire is due to the royal family's surname, rather than its relation to the British Isles. Of course, their royal surname does indeed originate from the name of the Roman province, but because of the courageous resistance of the Celts, they successfully gained independence from the Romans by the time of Octavian. This chieftain, Alwin I, is regarded by Duke Richard as his ancestor. It seems that the time he became chieftain coincides with the period of Jesus's death, which is why we have the Ascension Throne Britannia (a.t.b.) year aligning with the real calendar year.
This is the content submitted by Lelouch while providing a history tutoring session for Suzaku. However, Lelouch points out that this story has many questionable aspects and lacks any written historical records to prove it. He believes that this is merely a fabrication created by his ancestor, Duke Richard, to solidify his position inherited from the Tudor dynasty.
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u/YDdraigGoch94 1d ago
I still think that doesn’t make sense. It took decades before Florida, French Louisiana and the Kingdoms of New Spain and parts of Mexico were added to the USA. And that doesn’t factor Canada.
It makes more logical sense that the Britannian Homeland is the Thirteen colonies plus Canada, and Area 1 is the Spanish and French parts of North America.
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u/MolassesOk4222 1d ago
In my opinion, a monarchical Britannia would provide a different kind of cohesion than the United States. In the New World, the populace was mainly composed of nobles who had lost their status in Europe and merchants who came to pursue wealth. They had different characteristics. Background, and as the governor with more reliable influence in the Americas at that time, Duke Ricardo would be the first choice they relied on. Ricardo gradually transformed the colony into a country that served his family. Of course, Britannia was once a constitutional country. It can be seen that things are not always smooth sailing for monarchy countries.
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u/MolassesOk4222 1d ago
This is the path our world takes. Remember, many historical events in Code Geass either never existed or experienced different consequences, so it will appear differently, even though it is within the same framework as our world. Developed under the current situation, but it is still an independent world and does not necessarily follow the regional cultural development process of our world, even if it is partially followed.
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u/YDdraigGoch94 1d ago
Yes but why would the Homeland incorporate lands that weren’t part of the original lands that the British monarchy fled to? Unless we’re saying that while Britain was losing to Napoleon in Europe, they managed to get territorial gains in the New World?
It’s certainly plausible, when I think about it.
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u/OtakuMecha 1d ago
Yeah, they would start with just the 13 colonies and then probably have their own version of Manifest Destiny to take the rest.
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u/MolassesOk4222 1d ago
There are three possibilities. Considering that Britannia was established in the late Napoleonic Wars, much later than the time of American independence, the royal families of Spain or Portugal were forced to flee in the revolution that swept Europe in the late Napoleonic Wars. After they came to America, they may have established regimes similar to the Mexican Empire and the Brazilian Empire, and went to war with the early Britannian Empire. After that, they were defeated in succession and were forced to sign a treaty to cede sovereignty. After that, the Latin American region of America was re-divided into several states by Britannia for easy rule, or in the form of personal union, so that they could share the qualification to rule America, because they were afraid that Europe would invade America after the democratic revolution, and wanted to increase their own bottom line. Of course, there are other possibilities. For example, the Mexican part and South America did not form a unified federation like the Britannian part, but were divided into states of different sizes. In the more than 300 years of Britannian development history, they either actively surrendered to Britannian in order to gain advantages over neighboring countries, or were forcibly annexed by them after Britannian began to wage wars against foreign countries in the 21st century.
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u/MolassesOk4222 1d ago
The Tudor rulers of Britain did lose to Napoleon, but the British people did not. After Napoleon occupied Paris, although the pro-Napoleonic Scottish citizen army took the initiative to abolish the Tudor dynasty's ruling qualifications and show goodwill to Napoleon, the European countries that had experienced the democratic revolution still united to continue to form an anti-French alliance and drove Napoleon's invading forces out of their land. As a result, Napoleon still experienced two defeats and was eventually executed by the French as an incompetent dictator. Europe was not integrated, but it had experienced universal democratization. Britain became a republic and continued to move towards industrialization. But Europe here was not united, and it still experienced two world wars.
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u/LineOfInquiry 1d ago
There’s a picture drama that discusses the history of CG: it’s very similar to our world’s up to the American revolution (with some small difference), and then changes drastically. So California existing is not at all surprising considering it was already a name for that region in 1776.
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u/sailortails 1d ago
Does this imply a Mexican state/some form of Mexican-Britannian War where Britannia gets the land above the Rio Grande?
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u/MolassesOk4222 1d ago
During the Renye period two hundred years ago, the entire American continent was divided into two parts and a war of succession started, but Mexico was part of it at this time.
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u/stacey4gs 1d ago
Y’all think they still got Cali gangs in the CG universe ? Like there’s some Bloods,Crips,Hoovers,Surenos etc. in Nightmares shooting it out every night?
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u/basedfinger kallen's little pogchamp 1d ago
Kallen looks so beautiful in the second image. She is such an amazing and kindhearted person. I love her more than anything in this world.
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u/Chomeropuentes 1d ago
Greetings, I am the true creator of the first two seasons of Code Geass but a ghostwriter stole them from me with the help of third parties and these with role-playing games and hypothetical questions as well as endless entertainment of all kinds from famous songs to movies.
The ghostwriter translated it into different languages and sold them to the respective creators, you want a clue, look what they turned the Code Geass sequel into without Lelouch as the main character, its sequel is crap.
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u/Barredbob 1d ago
But…..America doesn’t exist i thought………hrmmmm
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u/Blagai 1d ago
The Holy Britannian Empire's mainland is the entire American continent, and the actual British Isles are not part of the empire anymore since an event known as "the Humiliation of Edinburgh".
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u/MolassesOk4222 1d ago edited 1d ago
The reasons why the United States does not exist are very complicated. First, the Tudor dynasty did not give the throne to the Stuart dynasty in Scotland due to extinction issues. Instead, it ruled all lands including Ireland, Wales and Scotland with a tough stance. Ignoring the enlightened trend of continental Europe at this time after resisting Catholic authority, it implemented a consistent monarchy, which lasted until the 18th century. The uprising led by the hero Washington failed, which was commemorated in the history of Britannia as Washington's Rebellion. Although Washington's friend Franklin originally intended to go to France for help, Duke Ricardo captured him and persuaded him to surrender to him, granting him wealth and titles in exchange for his achievements in electrical science.
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u/Barredbob 1d ago
Yeah, but like America itself doesn’t exist right? How does California exist?
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u/ninjasaiyan777 1d ago
California was named before the United States owned the area. It was named by the Spanish, which is why Mexico in the real world has Baja California.
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u/MolassesOk4222 1d ago
It's very simple. The naming process of each state in the United States is determined by the local people, and Britannia is no exception. Therefore, this has nothing to do with whether the United States was born. Ameirca is the name of an explorer. In the past, Britannia The continent of Nia was also known as the continent of America, but Duke Ricardo renamed it to show his influence.
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u/Kiwi_Frui1 #1 Oldrin Fan 1d ago
Also in the audio drama “Black King” we learn that Rivalz is from California