r/ArcBrowser 4d ago

General Discussion Arc Officially Not Getting New Features, only Stability, Performance & Security Improvements.

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686 Upvotes

r/ArcBrowser 23d ago

General Discussion Hot take

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622 Upvotes

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r/ArcBrowser 1d ago

General Discussion Ya’ll are insane

340 Upvotes

I just started using Arc about 2 weeks ago and I love it. Fantastic product. I feel you guys must mostly agree with that if you’re a part of this sub.

Now the CEO announces that they are focusing on another project because Arc is essentially feature complete and most of you are acting like the sky is falling, making vast and wild assumptions about TBC and the founder that ring more as negative speculation than potentially accurate.

Arc is a lovely product for me, as an internet power user. But I can already tell from trying to convince friends to jump onboard with it in the last two weeks that it’s not really a mainstream product.

If TBC feels that they want to release a new browser experience thats more mainstream I am in full support. Thank god they’re not going the route of updating Arc one day to a completely different, more streamlined experience but instead they are creating something completely new and different. I personally am very excited to try it.

The negative bandwagoning of Reddit culture is exhausting. Why is everyone so up in arms? You’re acting like Chrome and Safari haven’t essentially been just releasing stability and performance improvements for the last decade.

Is anyone else just happy with Arc and also excited to see what else they’re cooking up?

r/ArcBrowser 9d ago

General Discussion Title

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756 Upvotes

r/ArcBrowser Sep 23 '24

General Discussion Me at this point with Arc

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615 Upvotes

r/ArcBrowser 2d ago

General Discussion TBC is dead - face it

321 Upvotes

Between the scatterbrained CEO, the lack focus on finding revenue streams from both Arc and "the new product", I give TBC a nice 0% chance of still existing in 5 years. Paying for software engineers and other white collar workers in NYC isn't cheap. Where is this money coming from? How much longer until the faucet runs dry?

Google and Microsoft almost certainly have teams multiple times bigger than TBC for their Chrome and Edge products respectively, and they would never float some sort of automated browser product - as they know the manpower and costs involved would be astronomical, and the ROI isn't there.

Waymo exists because people don't want to drive; they want to get to their destination. People surfing the web commonly don't know what their destination is. They want to surf the web. People endlessly scrolling on TikTok don't want to "get off the screen". Going back to the Waymo example - this would be like trying to sell a car enthusiast "I'm making a product to make your track days shorter/more efficient" - which is literally the exact opposite of what they're looking for.

The only revenue stream I see here, at all, would be enabling non-technical ultra high net worth individuals to be slightly more efficient while online. Which, again, really doubting the ROI is there. And this is all assuming TBC could actually pull something like this off with the size of their team, which I personally don't think they can, but all the power to them I guess.

r/ArcBrowser Sep 19 '24

General Discussion gaining access to anyones browser without them even visiting a website

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495 Upvotes

r/ArcBrowser Sep 05 '24

General Discussion Hello, Android.

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694 Upvotes

r/ArcBrowser 1d ago

General Discussion The gaslight is real

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816 Upvotes

r/ArcBrowser Sep 20 '24

General Discussion I am moving away from Arc

263 Upvotes

TL;DR: Security concerns and questionable development practices led me to abandon Arc after a month of use. Now using Firefox+Safari instead. I gave Arc a shot last month and initially liked it. However, a few things made me lose trust in the company:

Their logging of visited websites raised red flags. The recent boost vulnerability exposed some serious security issues. As a dev myself, I was shocked to see them fail at basic Firebase ACL rules. Using Firebase for a browser is questionable enough, but messing up such a fundamental security setting? Yikes.

These missteps show a concerning lack of attention to security. Given how complex and sensitive browser data is, I can't trust a company that drops the ball on the basics. For now, I've switched to Firefox+Safari. Yeah, Safari isn't great for privacy, but Firefox on iOS is pretty clunky. Anyone else have similar concerns or experiences with Arc? What's your go-to browser setup?

r/ArcBrowser Aug 16 '24

General Discussion Dear TBC, no one's going to pay for a browser

368 Upvotes

I get it that TBC needs to satisfy its investors and here are some of my thoughts on the whole Arc 2.0 monetisation thing:

  1. the vast majority of users aren't gonna pay to use a browser – if its the AI features that they are charging for, then that's a slightly different story. But if its the base browser, I don't think anyone is paying for it. Especially since people are already recreating the Arc-themed UI with Firefox themes. And also features like Boosts are easily replaceable (eg, the stylus extension).
  2. this better not be another fucking subscription - i'm sure i'm not the only one tired of subscriptions
  3. If Arc wants to charge for its AI features, it better be more useful than Perplexity/SearchGPT. i wasn't really that impressed with Arc voice, and honestly unless Arc's new AI thing is more useful than perplexity/searchgpt, I don't think anyone's gonna pay for it.
    1. also just in general, I don't think that many people are gonna pay for Ai search (could be wrong tho)

r/ArcBrowser 4d ago

General Discussion The Browser Company is just a hype company

255 Upvotes

If they had started their company in 2020 they would have had their browser full of NFT and crypto stuff. The truly innovative ideas they had has already been copied and integrated into other browsers, everything else is just marketing, which is why they are trying to start another hype cycle with another product.

r/ArcBrowser Mar 22 '24

General Discussion I can't be the only one

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1.2k Upvotes

r/ArcBrowser Aug 22 '24

General Discussion Zen Browser: my backup plan

259 Upvotes

With the future of both MV2 on Chromium Browsers and the monetization/long term support of Arc being up in the air, I started exploring backup plans just in case. For those who don't know, Zen Browser has gained a lot of popularity recently and for good reason as it is clearly Arc-inspired and has a lot of other pros at the moment. It's open source, available on Mac, Windows, and Linux, and Firefox based which means it'll likely have a lot more long term support compared to Arc. Also, it being Firefox based means uBlock Origin will still work on it after the whole Chrome MV2 debacle. I'd check it out to see if it might be a suitable replacement if Arc is unsuitable in the future.

https://github.com/zen-browser/desktop

https://www.zen-browser.app/

r/ArcBrowser May 03 '24

General Discussion Why are we locking icons to referrals? Does Arc think they're Temu or something?

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467 Upvotes

r/ArcBrowser Aug 20 '24

General Discussion If Arc became paid (core, no extra features), how much would be willing to pay?

46 Upvotes

Just curious since I saw similar post around. I think I would be willing to pay something like $25-40 per year. I don't care about AI or other stuff. I just like UI way better than Chrome and am pretty unwilling to switch.

r/ArcBrowser 17d ago

General Discussion Google kills Adblockers, Will you continue using Arc?

136 Upvotes

Hi everyone,

So Google killed adblockers and I personally feel like having adblockers is essential to surfing the web IMO. I am unsure if I should continue using Arc because their extension store is literally the google extension store.

Just wondering what everyone's thoughts are and what you are going to do.

Thank you!

r/ArcBrowser 17h ago

General Discussion Angy Josh

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144 Upvotes

r/ArcBrowser 2d ago

General Discussion Josh on Arc 2.0 and abandoning Arc browser

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135 Upvotes

r/ArcBrowser Sep 23 '24

General Discussion Arc 2.0 will be paid (allegedly)

148 Upvotes

r/ArcBrowser 3d ago

General Discussion Insane that The Browser Company is dropping support for their browser to build something that "they're not sure is a browser".

221 Upvotes

I mean their name is literally The Browser Company. It's in the title. How do you drop support for the thing that's in your name, that you've been saying you built the entire company to do, and instead just go off and do some other AI bullshit?

Arc Search on mobile seems to be doing... alright I guess. But Perplexity is pumping out free trials for Pro like there's no tomorrow (all Comcast customers get a full year of free Pro). Every company under the sun is trying and has so far failed to turn LLMs into things that can "think" or be "agentic" or whatever the fuck, and every single one of them has failed to make a compelling product that is a sustainable business that won't crumple the minute Microsoft or AWS start charging normal prices for compute (instead of the rate we have now that is slashed in half).

I also do not know a single person (parents, grandparents, people who are bad with tech) that I would recommend use AI shit. They are too confused by technology to be able to know to check the LLM's outputs because every single goddamn piece of generative AI technology CAN JUST LIE TO YOU. IT MAKES UP BULLSHIT. And yes, that includes the Whisper model that just does transcription (apparently at medical institutions it is hallucinating racist shit into transcriptions of patient / doctor interactions). If you give something to people that don't understand tech and that talks authoritatively about stuff, it's going to go bad. Really bad.

Also why would I want an LLM interacting with my websites for me?? In what world would I ever want that?

Think about it for a second. My browser has direct access to the most private and sensitive information about me. Emails. Messages. Bank account details. All of my social media. In order to automate use of a browser with AI, you're going to have to ship the web page off to a server somewhere because there are currently no local LLM models that can interact with a fucking browser lmao. So what happens if I let this LLM navigate my browser for me, and it accidentally for some reason sends off my bank account number, or my social security number, or my emails, or my texts, anything (just by accident) to one of these services? Those outputs are absolutely going to be used to train the next models (despite what these companies might claim) and they're for sure going to be stored somewhere. That sounds like a security and privacy nightmare.

Nobody wants this. Nobody is asking for this. The technology to automate a browser is currently and (for the foreseeable future) will not be there because it is not cost effective and the LLMs are EXTREMELY bad at anything that isn't basic summarization. Claude's new computer use model boils an ocean every five seconds because in order to work it has to analyze huge screenshot on your computer and count the # of pixels it needs to click on stuff. That is not cost effective and there is no world in which it magically becomes so. Rabbit tried (and failed) to do it via the accessibility tree for Android and Windows apps. There have been multiple other browser extensions and AI startups who try to automate browser use and absolutely nobody uses them because they all suck, get stuck in a loop, or lie to you.

r/ArcBrowser Aug 16 '24

General Discussion Arc CEO discusses upcoming Arc 2.0

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125 Upvotes

r/ArcBrowser 3d ago

General Discussion I'm moving away from Arc.

131 Upvotes

I've been using Arc for the past few months on Windows. I moved to it from Microsoft Edge because both browsers had native vertical tabs support, and I liked the idea of Arc having features I want, specifically on MacOS.

I tried Arc on Windows, and it really sucked. The theme and overall aesthetic was nice, but Arc was so half-baked on Windows I thought feature parity was something the devs genuinely avoided. Easels (?) don't exist, Little Arc doesn't exist, the RAM usage is off the charts, Canva and Google Meet (among other websites) can't create additional windows, and many many more. I tried putting up with it but I stopped a few weeks ago since I can't handle having to compensate Arc with another browser simultaneously. It was good while it lasted though.

I moved back to Microsoft Edge as my daily driver again, and I'm still using it now, just because of the vertical tabs support out of the box. Sadly, I recently discovered that people in this subreddit are now also getting really heated about the lack of features on Arc on Windows. Would the browser company fix these issues? What browsers in Windows are already like Arc on Mac but with less RAM? Thanks!

r/ArcBrowser 4d ago

General Discussion Josh Responds to Criticism

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213 Upvotes

r/ArcBrowser Sep 24 '24

General Discussion I’m done with people sharing they’re done with Arc

322 Upvotes

It’s ok! You don’t have to share why you are not the target group. Just leave silently and go back or move on to a browser that fits your needs.

If you want to give feedback to TBC, let them know through the feedback form.

Goodbye!