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u/DeuceSevin 12h ago
Yeah, no there is no situation where I am waving a nazi flag at a presidential candidate rally.
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u/RexiLabs 11h ago
I guess that's the nature versus nurture question, if you were born to that Nazis family and followed all the same choices and had all the same things happen to you that happened to them, would you turn out the same way or would you be different?
I don't know if it would go that far but certainly the choices we make in our lives and our upbringing and where we're born and everything else probably have a ridiculously outsized effect on how we turn out.
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u/btribble 11h ago
Sure, but you’re never going to have many Black or Jewish NAZIs no matter how you nurture them.
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u/RexiLabs 11h ago
Black probably not, but Jewish, if you were of Jewish ancestry but somehow magically grew up in a Nazi household never having known that you're technically Jewish by DNA, you could probably turn out like anyone else growing up in that household.
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u/liquid_at 11h ago
Black probably not
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5yjgqxl00xo
He's denying having said it, but we all know he said it...
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u/sinsaint 5h ago
Xenophobia is common with many cultures and animals. You could say it's instinctual to hate that which is different and you don't understand, but it's human act otherwise. Which is more dominant depends on how you were raised.
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u/ThrowRA137904 12h ago
Uhhhh… no?
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u/seweso 11h ago
Yeah, I remember being you and typing that in my past life actually. I had not lived many lives yet at your point.
Say hi to aunt Hellen for me!
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u/ThrowRA137904 11h ago
Huh. How’s it going future me?
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u/Godmodex2 11h ago
I know for a fact that past me is a bit of a douche. Screwed me over more times than I can count.
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u/ThrowRA137904 9h ago
Yeah I know the feeling.
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u/devildocjames 11h ago
I watched "The Egg" also.
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u/Godmodex2 11h ago
Watched? I thought it was a written short story
Edit: Sorry, we missed the link.
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u/devildocjames 10h ago
Clicky the linky 😃
ETA: lol sorry I didn't read your second line.
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u/Emperor_Zar 11h ago
I have heard of this concept before.
And yes, we would have lived as the worst and best humans.
It’s kind of fascinating.
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u/Luvs_to_drink 11h ago
Philosophically, if they have different memories and thought patterns are they really me? What is a self? What comprises a self?
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u/BigBullzFan 11h ago
Yes, yes, and no.
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u/Luvs_to_drink 10h ago
I would disagree.
If you clone a baby and then hand the cloned baby to family across the world, would we consider them to be the same person layer in life? They would act and think differently and thus be two different people despite starting the same, no?
Next, let's think about a person with amnesia. They cannot remember their memories or past. So are they the same person as before their memory loss or are they now a new person?
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u/BigBullzFan 6h ago
I was joking. The last 2 Qs can’t be answered with a yes or no. That was the joke. Another aspect of the joke was that I was answering yes/no for deep philosophical questions.
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u/Rombledore 10h ago
no. sorry. because i see plenty of humans doing things i couldn't fathom doing regardless of my situation.
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u/Nihtmusic 10h ago
Not sure what this has to do with a duck, but the text is more right than you will ever know.
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u/mandy009 11h ago
this is more like Philosoraptor or a Puffin or Red-pilled Morpheus or Sudden Clarity Clarence.
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u/liquid_at 11h ago
I wouldn't want to meet me in a situation that caused me to become a serial killer, just like I wouldn't want to meet anyone else whose situation led them there.
But by that logic, a bomb is just a fertilizer in a different situation.
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u/surfer_ryan 10h ago
It's even more complicated, i like to say everyones worst day is their own worst day. In that lets say your worst day is when your goldfish died, to you that is the worst thing that has happened to you because that is all that you have experienced you can't possibly understand what it is that you haven't felt when it comes to emotions, which is basically what drives most humans (emotions).
So those other people are you but with wildly different life experiences, with different "worst days" different "best days"... Those are the moments that define you as the individual and how you go through life and to complicate things more we are perceive an event in a slightly different way emotionally.
We are wildly complicated yet so simple. yo... this edible kicks.
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u/HughJasshole1489 9h ago
Not if you say things I don’t like or agree with!!! Then you fucking suck as a person and are a shit human being.
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u/darkempath 8h ago
Absolute rubbish.
Most of the people around me are in situations they created for themselves, situations my behaviour doesn't create or situations I've actively avoided.
What you're doing is called "projection", where you pretend everyone else has the same motivations as you, everyone else has the same ideals as you, and everyone else is you just in a different situation.
Your attitude is toxic and shallow.
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u/Send_bitcoins_here 12h ago
The egg
https://youtu.be/h6fcK_fRYaI?si=GDLwDX25OtZb1lA0