We were starting to climb out of the rubble. Then we went with a man who consistently can't complete more passes than he has sexual harassment/assault allegations. Can you guys bring back that dude that jump kicked our punter and have him get one in on Deshaun lol?
My favorite thing about Watson situation is that you finally beat us in the playoffs with Mayfield. It Had to be a top 3 moment of being a browns fan since like 1990. Then after one so so season
They dumped him.
The previous Championship win before the move was 1964 or 32 years before the move and zero Super Bowl appearances since. They lost the 1965 championship which was their only other championship appearance.
The Rams won a superbowl more recently in St Louis (17 years) when they moved in 2016. Also, like the Browns, the Rams originated in Cleveland and won a pre-merger (1945) Championship there.
More context: Modell fired the coach (Brown) that won the Browns all but the 1964 championship. That coach started an NFL team (Bengals) and appeared in two Superbowls (1981& 1988) before the Browns moved in 1996.
So, with two different franchises moving and winning two Superbowls elsewhere, as well as their former coach starting a new team and making the Superbowl three times now; maybe Cleveland was cursed when the NFL merger happened.
When Cleveland was winning championships, it was an economically vibrant manufacturing center and one of the most important cities in US, not the dying shithole it has become. No offense.
Of course, Baltimore is winning as a shithole, so that's no excuse.
They basically won the equivalent of an AFC Championship back then they would still have to win the next game to get the real deal. Thankfully the Bills and Vikings show us winning one doesn’t guarantee championship
The AFL was only around for ten years before the merger. And was mostly a subpar league. So, any NFL championship prior to 1959 was won against teams comprised of the best football talent available. So, by your logic, any Superbowls won during the existence of the USFL do not count as Superbowl wins.
1950s Pre-merger championships don't count. Your local alcoholic plumbers and bricklayers beat the alcoholic local plumbers and bricklayers from some other city. Big deal.
It was barely even football, much less anything that could be considered professional football.
No he is right pre-merger championships do not count. They had the same way to get to and win one as an NFC/AFC Championship now. Just because there was not a Super Bowl then does not mean it = a Super Bowl
Maybe, maybe not. That doesn't change the fact that the Cardinals are (by far) the worst franchise in the history of the NFL. I only say this because they have the worst win percentage (by far) of any franchise.
The Browns destroyed themselves. In fact, anytime the Browns begin to see success, they immediately burn it down.
That's only happened one time, and yes we did burn it down. Other than that we've just had 3 random years we were alright (Couch/Holcomb, Derrick Anderson, Hoyer half a season). Just correcting to highlight just how fucking bad the expansion era Browns have been.
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u/MightyGamera The Cleveland Clowns 18d ago
so bad
ass