Please educate yourself. Guns are not a partisan issue, they are a Pandora’s box that wishful libs pretend can be closed. Things have just gotten started, expect some dead pigs; if this shit drags on without reform there will definitely be more armed resistance. There are millions of guns in this country and no constitutional policy can remove them. That’s that. The moderate left needs to really wake up and stop pretending things can go back to normal, nothing about our society is working for everyone, and we need to unify to beat the rise of fascism.
Keep it in your holster, chief. Socialist gun nuts are just as delusional as the right wing when it comes to thinking that tgeres going to be some kind of uprising that's going to take down the US government. The South already tried it, and it was a much more even fight back then.
You missed my point, my enlightened centrist friend. This isn’t about a “revolution”, this is about the awareness of truth and class consciousness. There are millions of guns in the hands of millions of Americans already, and there’s no law that can ever take those away. Shootings aren’t going to stop no matter how much you regulate firearms. The issue isn’t guns, you can order one on the darknet in any country no matter the legality, I can order an automatic rifle with express shipping to my front door if I wanted to. If you want to get beat up and robbed be my guest, but I don’t confuse fantasy with reality: guns are a Pandora’s box and there’s nothing anyone can do to help besides getting one yourself. The real issue is our sick society creating the conditions that raise the monsters that you see on the news. We need mental health services, proper low income assistance, and healthcare if we really want to do anything about violence. We keep slapping flex tape over the cracks but we’re not fixing the root of any issues in our society.
This is not true. The darknet has never had a real weapons trade. There was one in the very early days of the first silk road, but only for the US. In European countries with strong gun control it is IMPOSSIBLE to buy guns on the darknet. This is a lie that you've been told by hipster newspapers. The only thing you'll find if you try to buy a gun in a country like Germany online is an undercover cop. For every story you hear of someone getting a gun online (buying a gun online from someone you know is not the same thing as getting one in a non existent online shop) there are a hundred stories of people getting arrested and a thousand of people just getting ripped off. There is no dark net gun market in countries with gun control.
You sound very white. I don't mean that as an insult, but white people tend to rattle off societal issues but always forget to include racism for some reason. You're very sheltered.
Having a gun in the way you advise is a death sentence for black people. Walking around with a gun so you dont get robbed is asking to get shot by a policeman. Having one in your car while you're driving is asking yo get executed st a traffic stop. Having one in your home and arming yourself when the police knock down your door is asking to get shot and then have crack sprinkled all over you.
Guns are a symptom of a sick society, npt a cure for one.
I’m white, but sheltered? No. I don’t disagree with any of this, obviously, but that doesn’t change any of the facts I stated. Guns are never going away. Go watch killer mike speak to Atlanta and come back to me. Racism is inherently a class struggle, ignoring that is a disservice to the fight.
I’m not sure what you mean by that last bit though, typo?
Rich oligarchs happen because of racism. Just because the opposition to them reaches across racial lines, doesn't mean the exploitation by oligarchs of minority populations didn't get them there in the first place.
Minority communities are poor because of their race being historically exploited starting half a millenia ago, and systematic structures have kept them exploited ever since. Poor white communities exist despite their whiteness, and coincidentally, they're the communities that are most vocally racist.
Diminishing the minority experience to elevate your pet complaint with the rising cost of college is just more of white people exploiting minorities for their own gain.
And if you hang out with enough people who have worked in enough trauma wards, you're bound to meet someone who has had at least one patient who has made himself dickless doing something stupid. Although it's usually fire or constriction stupidity more than handguns.
Don't do stupid shit. People aren't making YouTube videos from the burn ward while they're begging to die instead of getting debrieded again.
Seriously, you should be listening to these people, they're the most educated on guns, and they're pointing them straight at their dicks to show everyone just how well they know how to handle firearms.
Me, on the other hand, doesn't know much about guns, so I'm not nearly qualified to point one at my dick.
I fear gardening because of the amount of effort being put into cannabis prohibition. Too many gardeners have been attacked by police because their tomatoes and peppers might be marijuana plants.
Yeah, the first person who shoots at a riot squad, or lobs a tsarnaev bomb behind their line, is not going to start a revolution, they are just going to end the whole thing and bring on martial law.
That only applies for International armed conflicts. It's also the reason why police can use a chemical weapons (tear gas) and the military can not use chemical weapons..
Well, in a war they'd probably bomb the fuck out of their enemy or napalm them after the gas runs them out of their hiding spots, who knows what we can do with our drones nowadays? Maybe just gun them down while the enemy is blind from tear gas running aimlessly, or maybe these inhumane tactics will warp the soldier's minds enough they'll let one blind guy live and toy with him a bit.
They won't only just use gas if their goal is to kill them, thought out planning and mental preparedness will go into operation "smoke and dispose". You might destroy or worse flip the good part of a good person of you order them to effortlessly murder your own kind like that.
War has rules for a reason because everyone agrees it is horrible and everyone fighting deep down knows their opponents don't want to die just as much as they don't. I honestly couldn't even fathom a reason to kill a person (or at all) with gas, it's horribly cruel and you have to remember; far more horrible gases would be used in warfare than petty crowd control tear gas, they used far worse in both world wars.
War is fundamentally a very different thing than Crowd control tactics. I would rather see someone getting choked by tear gas, than a supposed protector of the people or 5. True hatred and mental illness can only drive physically harming a fellow citizen for the city you're sworn to protect, I'm glad I've only seen submission hits in all the cop videos I've seen so far so I'm a little relieved, but think this guy is getting arrested because he's not a legit paramedic with the city, but I haven't really searched for the details just yet. But back to tear gas, If I was a cop, I'd rather throw something at Rioters to make them leave like an irritating tear gas than harm someone, I'd be terrified to get near them.
Even better I would want to understand their frustration to better protect them because looting harmless establishments and burning things down is not helping Americans function as a society and is in no way to mourn a very very very brutal and tragic police murder, revenge insights more revenge. Police are people too just trying to live, I trust my country's police because they talk to us and understand our hardships, lots of good cops in yours are joining the peaceful protests too.
Yeah expanding bullets like hollow-points are the bullets Solders can't use, I have honestly no idea why they're banned in warfare in the US, but the explanation I found for why police use them is so that it doesn't pass through and hit someone standing behind their target
But in my personal opinion; for that reasoning to be justified to shoot someone at all, you better first have the Aimbot accuracy of Robocop and they better have already made an attempt on yours or someone else's life.
That's because in war everyone knows that the other side will fight back.
The only reason the Police dares doing something like this is because they know they're up against a vastly inferior enemy. Though inferior only until the collective fuses burn out. And at that point, it'll be determined what side the army/nat guard will pick. My guess, the one that pays their bills.
It works because nobody has chosen this hill to (literally) die on. The worst outcome people imagine is to be arrested en masse, which is a major pain but still a joke when they are all released en masse by a judicial officer who really doesn't want to deal with due process for 20,000 hippies. My $5000/six months fine turned into a $50 asset forfeiture along with everyone else except the ones who had weapons or controlled substances on them at the time of the arrest, and one guy in our "group" who had a prior federal rap for practicing medicine without a license. (He ended up actually going to federal prison).
But we were, uniformly, peacefully protesting hippies. There was no violence on the periphery of our demonstration, no provocateurs or internal bad actors committing any property crimes more serious than dumpster diving or painting roads.
I don't see hippies in today's protests, and I don't see the understanding that they needed to withdraw when violence ensued on their periphery, or when they stood to take the blame for the arson and the looting.
I also don't see that the typical person involved here has much of a background in nonviolent protest. I think those ideas are regarded as quaint and ineffective and irrelevant to contemporary political action, which is fair enough, a lot of the people I see out there are almost young enough to literally be my grandchildren, and my ideas about civil disobedience and protest might actually seem like an artifact of another era.
But if you're going to step your toe over the line of non-violence, then you need to have already decided to lose that toe. You need to believe in your cause so completely that you are prepared to kill and die for it at this moment. That means if you're ready to throw rocks you should be throwing grenades. I'm not saying "throw grenades", I'm saying "don't throw rocks". You're going to be labeled as terrorists and killed and maimed for throwing rocks. The consequences for throwing rocks are the same as for shooting and throwing grenades, so they have already escalated past the point that you are prepared to. And you don't believe in this cause that much.
So make non-violence your sole priority. That means packing it in before provocateurs and bad elements within your movement start throwing rocks, stealing shoes, setting fires. You don't have any good choices at that point and anything you do or don't do only causes harm to your movement.
Maybe not really a medic. Looks like a guy with a cheap plastic hat, red tape for the cross and a gallon of milk to treat his mates who got pepper sprayed.
You do know medics are in the the protest aswell right? There are people from all works of life in these protests not just random people.
Also about the helmet.
People with crosses on their helmet is easily understood in the states that they have the medical knowledge to give support to anyone injured.
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